too much malic acid

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Unclerudy
beers 12 º places 3 º 12:17 Tue 8/7/2012

I made a new England style cider, and it seems to have too much malic acid. It is currently in a five gallon bourbon barrel adding right now. Plan on having it be in there for about four months, so i have another two to go. How do i reduce the acid in it? And not ruin five gallons of cider?

 
OldSock
12:25 Tue 8/7/2012

Havenít tried used it, but this is why malolactic bacteria is added to some wines: http://www.lalvinyeast.com/bacteria.asp it will convert malic to lactic, softening the acid profile

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3439 º places 209 º 13:03 Tue 8/7/2012

Are you sure itís mallic acid? You can also consider adjusting with minerals as well to balance the pH...

 
bierkitty
beers 167 º places 13 º 15:09 Tue 8/7/2012

Bottle it and let it go for about 6 more mos. I thought every cider we made was bad in the beginning but they just tend to loose the sharp edge after a few months. Well, except for the one I made last year with way too many dried currents. The jury is still out on that one.

 
Unclerudy
beers 12 º places 3 º 18:35 Tue 8/7/2012

Should i carb it? Or just leave it still? What are peoples thoughts on that for a new England style cider?

 
bitbucket
beers 2164 º places 63 º 20:22 Tue 8/7/2012

Time cures many things. Sharp acidity is one of them.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3439 º places 209 º 07:32 Wed 8/8/2012

Originally posted by Unclerudy
Should i carb it? Or just leave it still? What are peoples thoughts on that for a new England style cider?


Whatís the sweetness level of it? Your best bet would be to taste it still, petillant & sparkling to see what is the best. You can easily do that with a carbonator cap in a 1 liter soda bottle.

 
t0rin0
beers 72 º places 1515 º 07:51 Wed 8/8/2012

Originally posted by OldSock
Havenít tried used it, but this is why malolactic bacteria is added to some wines: http://www.lalvinyeast.com/bacteria.asp it will convert malic to lactic, softening the acid profile


Iíve read that that stuff will throw off diacetyl in the process. Is that true?

 
OldSock
06:32 Thu 8/9/2012

Originally posted by t0rin0
Originally posted by OldSock
Havenít tried used it, but this is why malolactic bacteria is added to some wines: http://www.lalvinyeast.com/bacteria.asp it will convert malic to lactic, softening the acid profile


Iíve read that that stuff will throw off diacetyl in the process. Is that true?


I have read the same thing, not sure how much though. You could always pitch some fresh yeast and hope that natural conditioning would clean it up.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3439 º places 209 º 07:50 Thu 8/9/2012

Originally posted by OldSock
Originally posted by t0rin0
Originally posted by OldSock
Havenít tried used it, but this is why malolactic bacteria is added to some wines: http://www.lalvinyeast.com/bacteria.asp it will convert malic to lactic, softening the acid profile


Iíve read that that stuff will throw off diacetyl in the process. Is that true?


I have read the same thing, not sure how much though. You could always pitch some fresh yeast and hope that natural conditioning would clean it up.


Will fresh yeast clean it up? I was thinking if he brewed a second cider and essentially kršusened it that it would work, but not just fresh yeast.

 
t0rin0
beers 72 º places 1515 º 08:27 Thu 8/9/2012

Originally posted by OldSock
Originally posted by t0rin0
Originally posted by OldSock
Havenít tried used it, but this is why malolactic bacteria is added to some wines: http://www.lalvinyeast.com/bacteria.asp it will convert malic to lactic, softening the acid profile


Iíve read that that stuff will throw off diacetyl in the process. Is that true?


I have read the same thing, not sure how much though. You could always pitch some fresh yeast and hope that natural conditioning would clean it up.


This is one place that I read it, but the White Labs page doesnt mention anything about diacetyl. I bought a vial of this stuff about 4 years ago from the Brueryís homebrew shop but never used it. Dont really feel like buying another one to find out if itís going to eff up my beer with a bunch of butter flavor.

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