Bogus/Fake place reviews

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Ragnampiza
beers 751 º places 20 º 19:26 Mon 12/22/2014

Didn’t know how to properly send a feedback, so hopefully a new thread should do the job..



These 3 accounts all joined 2 days ago, reviewd 2 beer and 6 places, with one of them in common (The Drunken Duck, 100 score, obviously) :


http://www.ratebeer.com/user/349414/places/ http://www.ratebeer.com/user/349418/places/ http://www.ratebeer.com/user/349475/places/

By the way, I noticed many, many strange place reviews (in the last few months) related to the north-east region of Italy. Hopefully there isnt a beer war beetwen publicans or bar/pub fans!

 
Ragnampiza
beers 751 º places 20 º 19:35 Mon 12/22/2014

Damn, it seems worse now after a better research

Again, strange accounts.. rating many different places in a single day, and (who would have guessed ?) all three of them gave a 100 to "The Drunken Duck"

http://www.ratebeer.com/user/311045/places/
http://www.ratebeer.com/user/345447/places/
http://www.ratebeer.com/user/311045/places/

Am I just being paranoid or is this really weird ?

 
DietPepsican
beers 1592 º places 63 º 19:49 Mon 12/22/2014

So the question:

Is The Drunken Duck(Italy) truly killing it?

 
AcctError62185
places 1 º 20:44 Mon 12/22/2014

Where exactly is it my son is there I can have him stop in and see if its near bologna

 
JoeMcPhee
beers 12090 º places 543 º 21:04 Mon 12/22/2014

What is it with Italians?

 
ContemplateBeer
beers 2092 º places 154 º 13:07 Tue 12/23/2014

How do we know that these reviews are fake?

 
Lowenbrau
beers 5864 º places 432 º 13:23 Tue 12/23/2014

Lots of fake places reviews around. If you know a little your local beer scene you can easily identify them.

 
ContemplateBeer
beers 2092 º places 154 º 13:52 Tue 12/23/2014

Originally posted by Lowenbrau
Lots of fake places reviews around. If you know a little your local beer scene you can easily identify them.
What if the reviews are textless, or contain little text?

 
Ragnampiza
beers 751 º places 20 º 13:52 Tue 12/23/2014

Originally posted by ContemplateBeer
How do we know that these reviews are fake?


Well, I can’t be 100% sure of course, but they are at least suspicious. As I tried to explain yesterday, the 3 profile linked in the first post, have just 2 beer reviews and 6 place reviews, which is already kinda weird. They never entered this site again, and all 3 of those gave a 100 to that pub.

2 of the 3 profiles linked in the second post, are even more strange, because both entered 33 place reviews.. exactly 33 both of them. And obviously there is the usual 100 to The Drunken Duck.


Originally posted by Lowenbrau
Lots of fake places reviews around. If you know a little your local beer scene you can easily identify them.



Exactly, I agree. Since there aren’t many active Italian raters, it sure is news worthy when dozens of place revies are entered withouth a proper comment and all of them have something in common.


By the way, I’m sure the pub in question doesn’t even known the existence of those reviews.. maybe there are just many excited beer lovers who want to promote their local pub, at least that’s what I hope

 
sebletitje
beers 11868 º places 491 º 15:11 Tue 12/23/2014

From what I have seen of the Drunken Duck, they are very solid in terms of what they offer. I’ll tell you they know about RB. They brought some of the most outstanding beers at regional festivals. Not sure if those reviews are legit or not, but my guess is that the fact that you can rate w/o entering text adds nothing in terms of having a clear account of the reviews.

 
ContemplateBeer
beers 2092 º places 154 º 16:38 Tue 12/23/2014

Originally posted by Ragnampiza
Originally posted by ContemplateBeer
How do we know that these reviews are fake?


Well, I can’t be 100% sure of course, but they are at least suspicious. As I tried to explain yesterday, the 3 profile linked in the first post, have just 2 beer reviews and 6 place reviews, which is already kinda weird. They never entered this site again, and all 3 of those gave a 100 to that pub.

2 of the 3 profiles linked in the second post, are even more strange, because both entered 33 place reviews.. exactly 33 both of them. And obviously there is the usual 100 to The Drunken Duck.


Originally posted by Lowenbrau
Lots of fake places reviews around. If you know a little your local beer scene you can easily identify them.



Exactly, I agree. Since there aren’t many active Italian raters, it sure is news worthy when dozens of place revies are entered withouth a proper comment and all of them have something in common.


By the way, I’m sure the pub in question doesn’t even known the existence of those reviews.. maybe there are just many excited beer lovers who want to promote their local pub, at least that’s what I hope
While all of that would seem to make a compelling case, none of it is illegal on our site, as far as I know. They could be friends who visited the same places, had shared experiences, and decided together to rate the places the same numerically. Do the reviews seem bogus? Absolutely, but by what standard do we decide a place rating is bogus when only a numerical value is required?