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miketd 679:36
Originally posted by Odeed
Originally posted by miketd
Maybe we should just have a vote. Tack it up on the trade forum for a week, one vote per member and a simple yes/no answer.

I would feel better knowing the majority of RB traders wanted this change instead of it being done by one guy for no good reason.


i asked for that in the beginning.which is where i got the response "ratebeer is not a democracy". thumbs up


Well, the dictatorship in this forum will be its doom.thumbs up
5/4/2008 12:58:44 PM

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lb4lb 2011:25
Originally posted by miketd
Maybe we should just have a vote. Tack it up on the trade forum for a week, one vote per member and a simple yes/no answer.

I would feel better knowing the majority of RB traders wanted this change instead of it being done by one guy for no good reason.


Yup. It couldn’t hurt to at least know if it’s split 50/50 or if something like 85+% of people prefer it one way over another.
5/4/2008 1:08:04 PM

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TheBeerSommelier 0:0
Originally posted by miketd
Originally posted by Odeed
Originally posted by miketd
Maybe we should just have a vote. Tack it up on the trade forum for a week, one vote per member and a simple yes/no answer.

I would feel better knowing the majority of RB traders wanted this change instead of it being done by one guy for no good reason.


i asked for that in the beginning.which is where i got the response "ratebeer is not a democracy". thumbs up


Well, the dictatorship in this forum will be its doom.thumbs up



Or...narrow-minded, pot-stirring loud-mouths will be. thumbs up
5/4/2008 1:29:00 PM

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TheBeerSommelier 0:0
Originally posted by TheBeerCellar
Originally posted by miketd
Originally posted by Odeed
Originally posted by miketd
Maybe we should just have a vote. Tack it up on the trade forum for a week, one vote per member and a simple yes/no answer.

I would feel better knowing the majority of RB traders wanted this change instead of it being done by one guy for no good reason.


i asked for that in the beginning.which is where i got the response "ratebeer is not a democracy". thumbs up


Well, the dictatorship in this forum will be its doom.thumbs up



Or...narrow-minded, pot-stirring loud-mouths will be. thumbs up


Rephrase: I won’t let narrow-minded, pot-stirring loud-mouths be this forum’s doom.
5/4/2008 1:30:49 PM

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miketd 679:36
Originally posted by TheBeerCellar
Originally posted by TheBeerCellar
Originally posted by miketd
Originally posted by Odeed
Originally posted by miketd
Maybe we should just have a vote. Tack it up on the trade forum for a week, one vote per member and a simple yes/no answer.

I would feel better knowing the majority of RB traders wanted this change instead of it being done by one guy for no good reason.


i asked for that in the beginning.which is where i got the response "ratebeer is not a democracy". thumbs up


Well, the dictatorship in this forum will be its doom.thumbs up



Or...narrow-minded, pot-stirring loud-mouths will be. thumbs up


Rephrase: I won’t let narrow-minded, pot-stirring loud-mouths be this forum’s doom.


Whatever. eye roll

It was doing better before your ham handed attemt at contolling things.

Nice job!thumbs up
5/4/2008 1:43:56 PM

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TheBeerSommelier 0:0
Originally posted by miketd


It’s doing just fine, thank you.

And you know what’s really funny? Big mouths like you call me a "dictator" in one breath and try to loudly force your opinions on the rest of the community in another.

Do you seriously think that any decisions here are made single-handedly? You really are a biased, deluded ass if so.

And what about the "ham handed attempt" to create a Bad Trader system? Should we have personally consulted you before implementing that as well? Or maybe taken a vote?

Man, you and one or two others around here are the cooks in the kitchen that single-handedly make "too many."
5/4/2008 1:57:41 PM

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miketd 679:36
Originally posted by TheBeerCellar
Originally posted by miketd


It’s doing just fine, thank you.

And you know what’s really funny? Big mouths like you call me a "dictator" in one breath and try to loudly force your opinions on the rest of the community in another.

Do you seriously think that any decisions here are made single-handedly? You really are a biased, deluded ass if so.

And what about the "ham handed attempt" to create a Bad Trader system? Should we have personally consulted you before implementing that as well? Or maybe taken a vote?

Man, you and one or two others around here are the cooks in the kitchen that single-handedly make "too many."


I’m not trying to force anything, but I would like to see an actual vote. Are you afraid your idea will be exposed as highly unpopular? I personally don’t care if it stays like this if the majority think it is the best way to go. Sorry, but I don’t take your opinion as gospel as you seem to think we all should.

And I hope you do think I’m an ass because the feeling is mutual. The professionalism you show as an "administrator" is always top notch.


Your adoring disciple,

miketd aka "trouble making ass"
5/4/2008 2:09:59 PM

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BlackForestCO 820:18
I have already said how I feel, but I do think a vote is the best way to determine how it should be decided.

I mean, most of us doing the trading are premium members, so I believe our voices should be heard considering we are paying to use RB.
5/4/2008 2:18:34 PM

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kp 8400:11
Originally posted by OldStyleCubFan
1. Not being on the front page probably doesnt help
It helps quite a bit. When trade requests were on the main page, there were many cases of thread jacking because people would start discussing the beer without realizing they were replying to a trade post. Now you know when you are replying to a trade post. Sure it cuts down on the volume of traffic because only people interested in trading come to the trade forums. If you want a lot of traffic, move from your quiet residential area to a house on a busy highway. You’ll get the traffic, but it won’t be people coming to see you or your neighbors.

Originally posted by OldStyleCubFan
2. The site is just slow these days. I find myself searching for beer reviews on BA just because the response time on RB has been poor of late. I spend less time on RB as a result.
That’s a whole other issue. I’ll click on a RateBeer link and then go sure another website in another window while waiting on RateBeer to load.

Originally posted by OldStyleCubFan
3. RB doesnt seem to be bringing in new people at the rate as BA. A FT: Westy 12 on RB wont get much, if any action. The same post on BA gets a ton from a much more novice audience. Who’s to say if that’s good or bad.
There are more kids in grade school than graduate school. In general the traders on BA are earlier in their beer geekdom. RateBeer is the next progression with more sought after beers. The "FT: Westy" does not get much action here because a lot of the active traders have one or at least have already had one.

Originally posted by OldStyleCubFan
4. If BA improves its trading features to allow for shipment history, like the discussed, I think the RB forum will die down further. I would trade on BA more but it just doesn’t feel as ’safe’ currently.
Traders will go to the website with the best features. Traders will go to the website with the most traders. eBay won the online auctions by being the biggest the fastest. Sellers go where the buyers are, and buyers go where there is a lot of choice and competition. The same may very well happen with beer trading.

Originally posted by OldStyleCubFan
5. When’s the last time there was a new RB BIF? A few new active BIF threads might drive additional ISO/FT posts due to the increased traffic.
Start one up.
5/4/2008 2:21:55 PM

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TheBeerSommelier 0:0
Originally posted by miketd
Originally posted by TheBeerCellar
Originally posted by miketd


It’s doing just fine, thank you.

And you know what’s really funny? Big mouths like you call me a "dictator" in one breath and try to loudly force your opinions on the rest of the community in another.

Do you seriously think that any decisions here are made single-handedly? You really are a biased, deluded ass if so.

And what about the "ham handed attempt" to create a Bad Trader system? Should we have personally consulted you before implementing that as well? Or maybe taken a vote?

Man, you and one or two others around here are the cooks in the kitchen that single-handedly make "too many."


I’m not trying to force anything, but I would like to see an actual vote. Are you afraid your idea will be exposed as highly unpopular? I personally don’t care if it stays like this if the majority think it is the best way to go. Sorry, but I don’t take your opinion as gospel as you seem to think we all should.

And I hope you do think I’m an ass because the feeling is mutual. The professionalism you show as an "administrator" is always top notch.


Your adoring disciple,

miketd aka "trouble making ass"


Not trouble maker...loud mouth. And your sense of community, maturity and amenability is always top notch.

You seem to think that if you can’t get your way, that belligerence, whining, yelling and stomping your feet will get it done. Well it doesn’t. It only endears you to yourself.

I listen to everything said here - some people are polite and constructive and somple people ain’t. You’re one of the latter.

You think the site "owes" you. Well, I’ve got news for you - there’s allot of things that get done here...and people who think their opinion is right (read: like you), and are willing to stomp their feet until it gets done, make things even harder to accomplish.

As I mentioned earlier, you think something should be a certain way, so it must be right. You’re exactly what you claim I am.

And as for a vote, it’s being discussed.
5/4/2008 2:23:22 PM

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