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premium kp 8400:11	Originally posted by miketd Maybe we should just have a vote. Tack it up on the trade forum for a week, one vote per member and a simple yes/no answer. But there would be no votes at the end of the week because nobody visits the trade forum to see the poll. Can we also vote on seeing homebrew topics on the main page? How about industry? Maybe some people don’t like food pairing. Or even travel. Has there ever been a public vote on any RateBeer change?	5/4/2008 2:25:42 PM Private message
premium BlackForestCO 819:18	Originally posted by kp But there would be no votes at the end of the week because nobody visits the trade forum to see the poll. Yeah...because we couldn’t put it on the Beer Talk forum to get as much feedback from the most members as possible.	5/4/2008 2:28:00 PM Private message
premium OSLO 825:80	Originally posted by kp But there would be no votes at the end of the week because nobody visits the trade forum to see the poll. I know you’re just joking here, but hopefully the poll would be in the Beer/Site News forum. Has there ever been a public vote on any RateBeer change? Does it matter whether there has or not? Even if changes aren’t made as a direct result of the vote, I would think that those in charge would be interested in what people think about this issue.	5/4/2008 2:33:23 PM Private message
premium cbkschubert 1945:33	I’d like to see a vote put to premie members with at least a few trades.	5/4/2008 2:36:18 PM Private message
premium Odeed 1666:14	Originally posted by kp Originally posted by miketd Maybe we should just have a vote. Tack it up on the trade forum for a week, one vote per member and a simple yes/no answer. But there would be no votes at the end of the week because nobody visits the trade forum to see the poll. Can we also vote on seeing homebrew topics on the main page? How about industry? Maybe some people don’t like food pairing. Or even travel. Has there ever been a public vote on any RateBeer change? so then what in the hell was the purpose of this thread in the first place??? unless if was just to rub it in our noses (AGAIN) that matt got his way,and the rest of our opinions are invalid.	5/4/2008 2:38:44 PM Private message
premium kp 8400:11	Originally posted by Odeed so then what in the hell was the purpose of this thread in the first place??? TBC is seriously looking for ways to improve trading at RateBeer. He is willing to listen to all suggestions and take them to the powers that be in order to try to implement what is possible. Traders are unique here at RateBeer in that we have our own private admin that will go to bat for the things that we want and need. Yet the best we can do as a group is bitch and whine and alienate the the person with best chance of making real change because the homebrewers are not forced to see our trade posts? Hell, lets put the trade requests on the RateBeer front page to get even more exposure. Lets be constructive and work together for things that would really help out trading like integrating some automated trading tools into the site. How about longer notes for trade reviews? Or does RateBeer already offer everything a trader could ever wish for?	5/4/2008 2:52:11 PM Private message
premium BlackForestCO 819:18	Originally posted by kp Yet the best we can do as a group is bitch and whine How is asking for a vote bitching or whining? As for your argument about "forcing" home brewers to see trade threads, couldn’t the same be said of "forcing" traders to see homebrew threads? If Industry, Homebrew, and Beer Travel are all on the forum’s page, I don’t see why the Beer Trade forum should be treated any differently.	5/4/2008 2:57:50 PM Private message
premium eclectic :0	Originally posted by kp Can we also vote on seeing homebrew topics on the main page? How about industry? Maybe some people don’t like food pairing. Or even travel. I’ve been too busy to write up the long post I wanted to about this topic, but I’ll comment on this little aspect for now.. what bothers me more about the trade forum being removed was that it was singled out, and the other forums that deserve to be removed (europe and homebrewing.. industry a distant third) are not and those forums populating the recent thread list annoy me more than anything(probably the same way the trade forums annoy a non-trader, so I can respect the feeling). I still say we need to implement a way to subscribe to the forums we want to populate the list(including multiple metro’s), which would make everyone happy.. I’m not a coder so I do not know if this is possible or how long it would take to implement, but my non informed opinion is that I think it wouldn’t be all that hard to do.. correct me if I am wrong please, as I probably am. It would solve this issue all together and be an upgrade useful to the entire community, not just the traders. On a side note, I too have noticed the site being ridiculously slow lately and its only been getting worse.. is there any specific reason this is the case?(this question is directed at the admins)	5/4/2008 3:03:19 PM Private message
premium kp 8400:11	Originally posted by BlackForestCO If Industry, Homebrew, and Beer Travel are all on the forum’s page, I don’t see why the Beer Trade forum should be treated any differently. Because we’re special. We get to have our own little area here at RateBeer without non-traders clogging up our threads with garbage that has nothing to do with the persons trade requests. I bet if people started going into industry threads and posting irrelevant garbage, those threads would also be removed from the main forum page.	5/4/2008 3:05:21 PM Private message
premium miketd 679:36	Originally posted by TheBeerCellar Originally posted by miketd Originally posted by TheBeerCellar Originally posted by miketd It’s doing just fine, thank you. And you know what’s really funny? Big mouths like you call me a "dictator" in one breath and try to loudly force your opinions on the rest of the community in another. Do you seriously think that any decisions here are made single-handedly? You really are a biased, deluded ass if so. And what about the "ham handed attempt" to create a Bad Trader system? Should we have personally consulted you before implementing that as well? Or maybe taken a vote? Man, you and one or two others around here are the cooks in the kitchen that single-handedly make "too many." I’m not trying to force anything, but I would like to see an actual vote. Are you afraid your idea will be exposed as highly unpopular? I personally don’t care if it stays like this if the majority think it is the best way to go. Sorry, but I don’t take your opinion as gospel as you seem to think we all should. And I hope you do think I’m an ass because the feeling is mutual. The professionalism you show as an "administrator" is always top notch. Your adoring disciple, miketd aka "trouble making ass" Not trouble maker...loud mouth. And your sense of community, maturity and amenability is always top notch. You seem to think that if you can’t get your way, that belligerence, whining, yelling and stomping your feet will get it done. Well it doesn’t. It only endears you to yourself. I listen to everything said here - some people are polite and constructive and somple people ain’t. You’re one of the latter. You think the site "owes" you. Well, I’ve got news for you - there’s allot of things that get done here...and people who think their opinion is right (read: like you), and are willing to stomp their feet until it gets done, make things even harder to accomplish. As I mentioned earlier, you think something should be a certain way, so it must be right. You’re exactly what you claim I am. And as for a vote, it’s being discussed. You’re really something. I am very much willing to listen to both sides in most cases. Maybe I have come across as a bit overbearing in this case. If so I apologize. But I would like to see you speak of me this way in regards to any other forum or post...outside monkey. I think my attitude here came directly from your arrogance...which is on display daily. If I annoyed or pissed off any of my RB friends/aquaintences I’m sorry. My ranting on this thread is over.	5/4/2008 3:07:41 PM Private message

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