Trade Mishap - Input Requested

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Message Benzai beers 20020 º places 321 º 01:10 Fri 4/25/2014 Originally posted by devman171 Smells of fish to me, why would anyone take the time to rip open a box on the porch? Why not just take it? That’s weird indeed...
Message GT P beers 10001 º places 672 º 02:15 Fri 4/25/2014 Originally posted by Benzai Originally posted by devman171 Smells of fish to me, why would anyone take the time to rip open a box on the porch? Why not just take it? That’s weird indeed... Scared of GPS tracker in the box? Hell if I know
Message MacBoost beers 2074 º places 37 º 04:44 Fri 4/25/2014 Once the bottles arrive intact on the recipients property, you have completed your end of the deal. Period. If you want to go out of your way to help him out by sending another box, that’s up to you. But not required.

Message b3shine P beers 12178 º places 372 º 05:00 Fri 4/25/2014 Originally posted by BoostIPA Once the bottles arrive intact on the recipients property, you have completed your end of the deal. Period. I agree with this, but not everyone does. The issue becomes proving that it hit your recipient’s porch and not that the FedEx/UPS/USPS marked it as delivered but delivered it to the wrong house, etc. However, in this case since there is proof that the box landed on his porch and was damaged because it wasn’t brought in in time, GT has zero obligation to make up for this IMO. Especially because OP was out of town and brought a third party (his neighbor) into the equation to handle the box. Sorry to hear this; it sucks for everyone involved.
Message bigda83 beers 854 º places 42 º 05:15 Fri 4/25/2014 It does seem extrememly odd that someone would actually open and go through the box and pick out specific things. You’d really have to have some stones to stand on someone’s porch in the open going through the box when you could just take it and run. Either way, this is terrible news. I may be a geek here, but I get excited when I know a box has arrived and can’t wait to crack it open. Coming home to no box or a ransacked one would def be a big letdown. It sounds like you know him and have traded before from what I saw in the messages. I’d say maybe send a couple bottles his way to make up for what was lost, even know those can’t be replaced. If you guys have traded in the past and now then I’m sure that would be repayed back in the future to you with some cool bonuses. Obviously, it’s not required as others said. You did your part already.
Message waltersrj beers 280 º places 2 º 06:57 Fri 4/25/2014 Originally posted by GT2 Originally posted by waltersrj GT2 was it my buddy Colin Spence? Oaked Canuck? Yeah, is his handle on here OakedCanuck? I’ve actually traded with him before but didn’t know his handle here. Yes his handle is OakedCanuck on every site I believe. Colin is a good guy and trying to complete his Armand 4 set. Crap happens unfortunately though he doesn’t live in a crappy neighborhood. He lives in one of those new neighborhoods where everything is new construction and most houses generally have the same build to them. He also lives at the very bottom of one street so it is odd they were stolen but Colin definitely didn’t take them out to claim they are gone if anyone thinks that.
Message TheAlum beers 7164 º places 10 º 06:58 Fri 4/25/2014 If something gets stolen off the porch after delivery, it’s one of the few situations where the sender is not responsible.

Message waltersrj beers 280 º places 2 º 07:15 Fri 4/25/2014 I would agree that if a box is delivered to the designated area and beers are then stolen or damaged, it is not the responsibility of the sender to replace bottles, especially ones not easy to get. If you are a long term trading partner then I’d probably send a few other beers depending on my relationship with the person just as a kindness but that’s just me. I’d even maybe just wait for another trade and then blow them away with extras even more than usual. If a box never makes it to their house/business then I think it is the responsibility of the sender to replace in some sort of fashion. These are the hazard of trading unfortunately.
Message MacBoost beers 2074 º places 37 º 07:18 Fri 4/25/2014 Originally posted by TheAlum If something gets stolen off the porch after delivery, it’s one of the few situations where the sender is not responsible. Other situations where the sender would not be responsible: Frozen/exploded bottles due to weather Recipient made a typo on the address he gave you (this has happened to me) Taxed/seized by customs Broken "extras" (as long as the agreed upon bottles were delivered)
Message b3shine P beers 12178 º places 372 º 07:43 Fri 4/25/2014 Originally posted by BoostIPA Other situations where the sender would not be responsible: Frozen/exploded bottles due to weather Taxed/seized by customs I disagree with both of these. If the recipient is adamant about shipping in bad weather and says he’s willing to risk bottles exploding because he’s under time constraints for a tasting, then the onus is off the shipper. Otherwise the responsibility is on the shipper to make sure the box arrives with the agreed upon bottle(s) in good shape. It’s a risk you take shipping in the winter and/or internationally.