Boulevards Saison Brett and Tank 7 are top notch. I put them up there with a few of my favorites from Belgium. |
I never see Dupont for less than $15 a 4 pack. |
Not trying to be argumentative. But what defines a Saison? How is Helios NOT a Saison? |
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Originally posted by beastiefan2k It’s a great article and I know you are the Saison guru. In fact, I always refer to your ratings when looking for Saisons. My question really pertains to accepted industry standards. When someone says X beer saison is not a real Saison. That’s based on what? Personal preference? Wouldn’t dismissing Helios a Saison be the equivilent to a west coast IPA fan saying that East Coast IPAs are not real IPAs? Like IPAs, Saisons have a pretty broad spectrum do they not? Again, not trying to be argumentative- just trying to learn more and understand everyone’s take. Belgian beer styles and history are not my forte. |
just a quick note, that is Ernest not me who wrote the article. I know shit about beer but I am really good at pretending. |
Does anybody find it a striking coincidence that 90% of breweries we’re patting on the back for reasonable prices are all on the larger side of the spectrum? And also probably not the breweries with the highest hopping rates? |
Originally posted by robrules I’m not sure I entirely agree with the first quoted paragraph. There are tons of new breweries with passionate brewers brewing great beer. Sure some of them may suck and not be in it for the right reasons, but there will always be a percentage of those businesses regardless, and from what I’ve seen, the percentage isn’t any higher now, even if (obviously) the net number may be. The rest of it about waning demand...probably bound to happen, but the thing about craft beer now is so many people beyond beer geeks still just look at it as beer, regular old beer. So I don’t think it will be a boom to bust sort of phenomenon, just a slowing of growth and of course a slowing of the "super premium" stuff. The second quoted paragraph on the other hand is something I have pondered about, regarding the future of the businesses currently owned or run by the brewers themselves. Obviously small, "nano"-type breweries are nearly always passion-driven, and they may take a hit. But there are already sound examples of large corporations as well as private but still non-beery groups owning previously independent breweries where quality remains. I’m no business guru, so I don’t know things about the degree to which consolidation may take place, but there’s still tons of vineyards and wineries, small, large, and gargantuan. |
Originally posted by beastiefan2k Oops, I thought the post was from Ernest, my bad. I knew he wrote the article. |
Hung out with marc for the first time this weekend. Seemed like a pretty nice guy. Shared some awsome beers as well. |
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