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Brewed by Brouwerij Alvinne
Style: Saison
Moen, Belgium
Serve in Tulip

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RATINGS: 21   MEAN: 3.56/5.0   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.46/5   EST. CALORIES: 210   ABV: 7%
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3.6
joergen (29397) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - DEC 10, 2017
Draught at Bishops Arms Savoy.
Hazy golden coloured with a small white head.
Fruity aroma of spices, hops and marzipan.
Fruity flavour of hops and spices with acidic notes.
Fruity finish.

3.7
Bierridder_S (1131) - BELGIUM - NOV 20, 2017
UPDATED: NOV 20, 2017 29/10/2017 - 33cl bottle @the Brewery. Hazy orange with a nice creamy white head. Nose is grainy, bit funk, wood. Taste is grainy, funk, bit spices, bit crossover between a Saison and Alvinne sour.

3.7
Alengrin (5788) - BELGIUM - NOV 17, 2017
Bottle from Etre Gourmet. Alvinne unleashing their Lactobacillus-containing house yeast strain onto the old saison formula, 33 cl steini bottle. Irregular, papery lacing, off-white, moussy head showing some gaps in the middle quickly but otherwise very well-retaining; lightly hazy, pure and warm golden blonde beer with ochre-ish hue. Fascinating aroma, though more modern sour ale-like than saison-like, with hints of overripe gooseberry, yellow plum, salami, curdled milk, stewing rhubarb, ripe pear, raw pineapple, lemon rind, raspberry vinegar, goat cheese, spoiled grapefruit flesh, sourdough, faint hints of moist hay, chalk, pickled gherkins, sweat (as in: sweaty feet, though not even too off-putting in this particular context), baby diaper, apple sauce, artisanal cider, papier maché. Crisp, tart, very refreshing, very estery onset, unripe pineapple, green plums, pear, slight banana, sweet embedded in soft green gooseberry tartness, sour but only in a soft, lactic way, gently drying the palate, which is medium carbonated. Supple, lean malt body, 'white' breadiness but soft and rounded enough for the intended style, bit cereally too, ongoing drying yoghurty- or spoiled milk-like sourness but mellow and refreshingly so; ends dry due to this tartness, but still in a crisp, bright kind of way, not descending into too much yeasty 'dirtiness' though spicy and bready yeast effects are certainly there. Juicy, with a subtle amount of floral hops coming in right in time, providing soft retronasal hop traces and a late but effective, earthy hop bitterishness; yeasty esters and lactic tartness continue well after that, carried by persisting malt breadiness, with a touch of very dry white wine to it somewhere as well as a distinctive chalky hint. Very sweaty and charmingly 'stinky' aroma, a 'light' version of what I encountered in their Phi - where this stinky effect was so strong that it completely put me off. This is not the case here: this remains fairly subtle and elegant, though a bit less of the sweaty feet and baby diaper would probably help it forward. Crisp and fruity, drying and tart: this has everything a modern, international (or American) style sour ale needs, but the 'saison' aspect remains a mystery - I still have difficulties accepting that 'saison' necessarily involves some or other additional 'wild' fermentation. If so, I guess using some Brettanomyces for refermentation could have been a better choice than fermenting the whole thing with that Morpheus conglomerate, but I still enjoyed this beer a lot in spite of style issues. I do wonder what extended aging could do to it, however, considering the beauty I was lucky enough to experience from older Alvinne bottles - in totally different styles - that also centered around their house yeast. The sourness in this one remains however very soft and refreshing, maybe a drier, more outspoken hop profile would have brought it closer to what people expect from 'saison' these days? Not sure about it, saison was never an intended style but just developed over time in an era when beer styles were not an issue (or not even invented yet as a concept) so I will not bother about that anymore: as long as it's more or less blonde, 'rustic', crisp, finishing dry and hoppy and coming across as refreshing, anything goes to deserve the moniker 'saison' - yet even with that concise recap in mind, this remains too much centered around Morpheus lactic sourness and not enough around hoppy dryness, which in my book does not make it qualify as a saison. Still a very nice sour ale, though.

3.4
Desverger (13188) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - NOV 5, 2017
[email protected] Extravaganza 2017, London - gold yellow coloured pour with a white head. Fruity and floral grassy hoppy, yeast, citrus lemon wash, malt, light palate, light floral with a touch of spice into the finish.

3.6
Borup (15556) - Albertslund, DENMARK - OCT 26, 2017
Sample at Beavertown Extravaganza 2017. A hazy yellow coloured beer with a white head. Aroma and flavour of fruit, citrus, hops, citrus and sourness.

3
Koelschtrinker (21834) - K?ln (Cologne), GERMANY - OCT 23, 2017
Spritziger, leicht hefiger Antrunk. Minimale Säure, spritzig, weich. Die Säure wird stärker, säuerlich bleibend, gut. 10/9/8/8//9

3.5
thomat (4180) - G�teborg, SWEDEN - OCT 4, 2017
On tap @ BBF 2017. Cloudy golden with a tiny white head. Fruity and hoppy tones. Fruit, malt, sour and spice. Medium body with a bitter / sour finish.

3.9
Benzai (16768) - Oirschot, THE NETHERLANDS, NETHERLANDS - SEP 28, 2017
Sampled @ Borefts Beer Festival 2017, day 2. Hazy lightly orange color, small white head. Smell and taste lightly malts, wheat, a light citrussy fruity touch, very well balanced. Can't really pinpoint what it is I like so much about it but I do. Lovely beer imo.

3.7
SinH4 (6402) - Garching b. München, GERMANY - SEP 24, 2017

Tap. Hazy golden color with white head. Aroma is dough, peach, wild yeasts. Taste is peach, tannins, caramel, apricots. Oily mouthfeel, low carbonation. Very nice!

3.4
Beerhunter111 (22974) - P´Castle, GERMANY - SEP 24, 2017
Sampled @ Borefts Beer Festival 2017. A hazy dark golden beer with a small white head. Aroma of soft tart fruits, strong yellow fruits, belgian yeast. Taste of strong yellow fruits, pale malt, belgian.


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