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Brewed by Carlsberg Sverige
Style: Baltic Porter
Falkenberg, Sweden

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RATINGS: 984   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.6/5   EST. CALORIES: 165   ABV: 5.5%
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Bottle: Filtered.
One of Michael Jacksons 500 Classic Brews. Carnegie Porter was brewed for the first time in 1836 and tastes the same today as it did then. Carnegie Porter has a creamy head with a scent of coffee. Its sweet and wellrounded flavor is balanced by the bitterness of the hops. Storage helps the flavor mature and enhances its harmony.

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3.5
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
TBone (16438) - Pori, FINLAND - FEB 12, 2005
UPDATED: AUG 29, 2006 Bottled, alc. 5.5%, 2004 vintage in 2005 (BB 12/2014)
Dark almost opaque brown color, good creamy expresso head. Aroma has raisins, roasted malts and coffee: roast, sour and sweet. Sticky sweetish mouthfeel, medium-bodied. As expected delicious chocolaty roasted malts dominate palate. Attacking bitterness and slightly hard/flat mouthfeel too. Aging and extra alcohol would do good to this one. (7/5/7/3/15 3.7)
Vintage 2006 in 2006, alc. 5.5%
Molasses, very light roasted notes in the aroma. Slightly burnt molasses, sweetish, plain. Quite industrial taste as fresh. (6/4/6/3/12 3.1)
Bottled vintage 1998 in 2006
Chocolaty, a bit oxidated nose. Wineous, flat, rounded, roasted coffee beans. Not sweet, drier and more chocolaty than 2005-2006 vintages. Unfortunately past its prime. (6/4/5/4/12 3.1)
Vintage 2000 in 2006
Portwineous nose, clean palate - no oxidation. Chocolaty, not sweet. Rounded, propably "the peak" vintage right now. (7/4/7/3/14 3.5)

3.2
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
brokensail (16222) - Dublin, California, USA - APR 14, 2012
The pour is brown in color with a small tan head. Some roast malt, dark fruit, and a hint of coffee come through first on the nose. A bit dusty and oxidized. Quite a lot of dark fruit, especially prunes. The flavor is fairly simple. Some roasted malt, chocolate, and tons of dark fruit.

2.4
   AROMA 4/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 4/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 10/20
Oakes (16093) - Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA - NOV 23, 2000
UPDATED: APR 7, 2005 One of the best vintage beers I ever had was a 1989 Carnegie Porter, aged 11 years. This was the OLD recipe, Klass III version. Absolute masterpiece. This rating is for the new recipe, not aged. That other one was a 5.0.

Amendment: The 1989 is now past its prime. It is still a tasty drop, but no longer a 5.0. Newer vintages tasted - 1999, 2001, 2003 are all thin, lagerish and lousy. Avoid. Numbers are a compilation of recent vintages.

Another amendment. Im beginning to suspect there is a different Carnegie Porter brewed for the American market as a recent sampling of a 2001 showed a full-bodied beer with ample toast and cocoa.

3.7
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
chrisv10 (16026) - DENMARK - JUL 16, 2015
Bottle. Very dark brown with medium beige head. Aroma is roasted malts, chocolate, coffee, caramel and liquorice. Flavour is roasted malts, chocolate, coffee, caramel, sweet, liquorice, hop and medium bitter.

3.5
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
Dedollewaitor (15724) - Odense, DENMARK - OCT 1, 2007
Dark brown with creamy brown head. Roasted malts & dried fruits. Smooth & soft mouthfeel. Chocolate. Very drinkable!

2.8
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 9/20
jtclockwork (15426) - , New Jersey, USA - MAY 14, 2010
Pours nice velvety black in glass with good head. Nose has a little mesquite smoke to it. I got some smoke in the flavor as well as light chocolates and coffee. Rated 8/8/2000

3.6
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
MiP (15378) - Snderborg, DENMARK - NOV 4, 2007
2007 bottle, 5.5%. Roasted aroma. Black colour, small brown head. The flavour is cfeamy and nicely sweet with English liquorice aftertaste. Late malt bitterness. Quite flavourful and well-balanced. Pleasant carbonation. I would probably enjoy it more after a years cellaring.

3.4
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
Theis (15152) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - JAN 8, 2007
Bottle (1999) at DTE - Ratebeer night (06-01-07). Almost black - brown head. Bread, berries, roasted, burned, smooth, licorice, dusty, caramel, light mould, dry, thin finish - but very good.

3.5
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
FatPhil (14896) - Tallinn, ESTONIA - SEP 21, 2008
UPDATED: OCT 29, 2013 500ml bottle (Systembolaget) - (6:4:8:3:14=3.5) - Gift from MiP - thanks!
Very dark brown, large but brief frothy head. Sweet aroma, a little sickly, some nuttiness but also plasticky. Sickly sweet body too, soft carbonation, a little watery in places. Sweet plasticky roasted malts in the taste too. A decent burnt body - some chocolate. Subtle hoppy taste builds up and stays for the finish, along with the more astringent burnt corners of the taste.
Rerate: 330ml bottle - Argang 2009, BB2011-09, drunk 2013-10 (7:4:7:4:14=3.6)
Black, loose tan head. Initially a port-winey or even madeira-like raisiny aroma. Heavier dark fruits like prunes too. Clearly aged. Lovely raisiny retronasals, later some aged yeasiness, marmite. Quite thin palate, carbonation low. Taste is a little dry and has some papery hop aspects. Gentle ashiness, no way hear as aggressive as it was previously. Gentle vanilla creaminess to the retronalsals later. What might be called excessive aging has workjed very well for this. Somewhere between the two extremes might be optimal.

3.9
   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 15/20
Benzai (14660) - Oirschot, THE NETHERLANDS, NETHERLANDS - FEB 4, 2012
2010 bottle shared with Thompson. Very dark brown color with a deep dark red glare coming through. Small beige head. Smell slightly roasty, dark malts, light sweetness, slightly coffee, slightly chocolate, slightly alcohol, caramel and wood. Taste roasted malts, chocolate, coffee, hints of -in Dutch- drop. Very nice balance. A bit thin texture. Medium body, average carbonation.


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