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RATINGS: 298   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.89/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

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3.8
kmweaver (3207) - Petaluma, California, USA - DEC 24, 2010
12oz bottle, purchased at Georgetown Deli & Beer. Pours a similar oily, dark cola-brown color to Either, if maybe a touch lighter; thin, medium-tan head with light lacing. Lots of piney hop bitterness in the aroma, followed by honeyed maltiness and roast; more pine-forward than the Either, to my nose, with greater emphasis on the hops character. Medium-full body; modest carbonation. Lots of roasted malts, piney hops, and honeyed notes here; rounded, warming character; again, more piney hop-forward than the Either and a touch less full-bodied, but really tasty and nicely balanced overall (not overly sweet at all). Lasting finish: lots of roasted malts, pine, and honey; lingering roastiness.

3.9
phaleslu (10551) - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA - DEC 24, 2010
12 oz. bottle via trade with michael-pollack- thanks again, Pollack! Pours opaque black, dark brown as it pours, with a small tan head that leaves a small amount of film and lace. Aroma of chocolate malts, earthy hops, tobacco, toast, pepper and a lot of cooking spices, dust, herbs, and tropical fruits. Flavor of citrusy hops, earth, cedar, roasted malts, faint smoke, orange peel, tobacco, spices, flat cola, and tropical fruits. Medium-bodied, with carbonation that starts low and finishes crisp and a bitter, earthy, fruity mouthfeel. A little dry. Excellent black IPA, a very unique, complex take on the style.

3.8
egajdzis (6692) - Pennsburg, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 23, 2010
Nearly opaque black color with a small, tan head that left nice lacing on the glass. Aroma of cocoa, some roasted malts, floral hops, light pine, and citrus fruits. Taste of roast, dark chocolate, pine, tobacco, grass, and citrus, with a bitter somewhat dry finish.

4
cbkschubert (2901) - BFE, Arizona, USA - DEC 18, 2010
12 oz. bottle via trade with smith4498 - Pours a dark brown color with a one finger thick tan head that lasted a good while. Very light spotty lacing. Aroma is pungent, floral, and citrus hops with a hint of toasted wood. Flavor is chocolate, light smoke, and lots of hops. Full body. Slight stomach warming, but the alcohol isn’t too noticeable. An excellent beer. Thanks Jason.

3.7
AlephNull3 (114) - New Jersey, USA - DEC 18, 2010
Pours a dark chocolate brown with a lacing light head. Smells of burnt coffee with a slight hint of alcohol. Taste a rush of sweet rasins and plums, that mellows into a tart coffee like finish. This beer completes the 2 part series for me and I have to say I may have enjoyed the EITHER a little better. Solid beer, $8 plus a bottle was a little pricey for the results but a must try.

4
MartinT (10037) - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA - DEC 17, 2010
UPDATED: FEB 9, 2011 My Bottom Line:
Toasted cedar and pils malts are a match made in heaven, it seems, for this Barrel-Aged Imperial Black IPA, where citrusy hops, roasted angles and deep molasses are all perfectly harmonious.

Further Personal Perceptions:
-A veil of foam tops the blackened brown.
-Alcohol is very well hidden throughout.
-Soft carbonation lets the palate perceive the mesmerizing cohesion of all ingredients.
-This one is perhaps not as intense as its Either counterpart, but it is much more evocative to my palate.
-This is quite sweet and not as elegant as Hill Farmstead brews. Still, a great sipper from beginning to end.

Bottles.

4.2
Slimbrundage (80) - USA - DEC 16, 2010
Pitch black with a tan head. Smoky black malt, molasses, cedar and blackberries. Medium to full bodied, silky smooth. The cedar hits you right away and gives way to roasty bitterness, coco and piney hops. Long lingering finish of pine and cedar. Best Black IPA I’ve ever had, Cigar City has done it again.

3.8
al_b (36) - Orlando, Florida, USA - DEC 16, 2010
From a bottle. Pours black with little head and lots of lingering lacing. Aroma is heavy on hops and cedar with some chocolate. Taste is sweet and hoppy with bitterness from the cedar. Palate is a nice mouthful feel with a bitter ending. I’m very pleased with how this beer turned out.

3.7
TheEpeeist (3709) - Media, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 15, 2010
12 oz bottle. Didn’t realize these two new CCB brews were 10%+ ABV but i feel compelled to rate them back to back. Ebony with a tan head. Nose is chocolate, catty hops, coffee and cedar. Almost full body with a tang. Taste is honey, licorice and grapefruit peel. Hoppier than the Either, less of the cedar and not quite as nuanced.

3.9
Beerman6686 (6607) - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 12, 2010
This poured a jet black color with a large light brown head. Aroma was lots of dark roasted malts and some fresh herbal and spicey hops. Flavor was very roasted but not burnt, balance by a good amount of hops but not nearly as bitter as the either. I think I liked this one just a little more.


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