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RATINGS: 298   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.89/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

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4.1
Leighton (21296) - London, Greater London, ENGLAND - FEB 26, 2014
Bottle shared at Ma Che in Rome. Pours black-brown with a foamy tan head. Burnt cedar wood on the nose with darkened grapes as well. Medium sweet flavor with lightly jammy dark fruits, light chocolate, grape jelly, mellow dry cedar wood. Medium bodied with fine, creamy carbonation. Light warmth to finish with a bit of bitter baking cocoa, earth, ripe and sweet berries. Lovely. Great depth of character.

4.2
Rasmus40 (20799) - Beder, Aarhus, DENMARK - MAR 17, 2011
Black with a light brown head. Aroma is raosted malt, coffee and hoppy - pine and grapefruit. Flavor is very sweet and very bitter. Finish is very bitter with warming alcohol. Not thick and creamy like Either, but still great. 160311

3.8
Theydon_Bois (19537) - Hazlemere, the lower Xhitlerns, Buckinghamshire, ENGLAND - JUN 24, 2013
Bottle, Theydon Bois Roma Pre-Nuptuals Tasting at Ma Che, 22/06/13. Thanks to Leighton for hunting down a 2nd Black IPA rate in Roma! Dark black with a frothy tan head. Nose is liqourice, aniseed, bitter roast, dark chocolate, hoppy backnotes. Taste comprises dark malts, good dose of roast, light pine bite, touch of bitter hops, aniseed, licqourice, light chocolate. Full bodied, soft carbonation, light booze in the finish. Decent, more of a black IPA than Either in my book but both decent beers and well made with little thought given to the fact your’e supping a double digit ABV beer!

3.6
rlgk (18850) - Göteborg, SWEDEN - JUL 10, 2011
Bottle, thanks to Nisse666. Black beer, beige head. Hoppy earthy aroma, rather dry and a bit spicy. Hoppy earthy flavor with perfume and metal.

3.5
harrisoni (18578) - Ashford, Kent, ENGLAND - MAR 15, 2011
Bottle at ACBF ’11. Not as good as the Either. Very deep brown colour, smoky aroma, bit medicinal. Tasty dark roasted malts. Coffee but medicinal throughout.

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saxo (18451) - Højbjerg, Aarhus, DENMARK - MAR 18, 2011
Bottle from Skjold Burne. Medium head with medium duration. Color is black. Aroma and taste are coffee, chocolate, hops, flowers and licorice. Great beer.

3.8
mcberko (17847) - Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA - JUL 30, 2011
12 oz. bottle, sent from Glouglouburp (thanks Dany) split with Matts_Property, pours black with a slight reddish tinge and small ring of tan head. Aroma is balanced between roasted malts, honey and cedar, with the cedar becoming more pronounced the more you smell. Flavour is similarly so, with cedar, honey, slightly burnt roasted malts and wood all prevalent - the cedar and burnt / wood notes lingering. Again, not a huge fan of the cedar though it’s not as strong as in Either, and this is beautifully crafted nonetheless. More well-rounded than Either and I enjoyed it slightly more.

4
chrisv10 (17460) - DENMARK - MAR 10, 2011
Bottle. Black with small light brown head. Flavour is roasted malts, chocolate, coffee, honey, perfume, bitter and hops.

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yngwie (17053) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - APR 20, 2011
Bottle, 12oz, thx to Meilby. A next to pitch black beer, topped by a dense, tan head of moderate size. The aroma is on the hoppy side, like sticking your head into a bag of American C-hops. Pine cones, resins and lots of citrus. There’s hints of roasted malts and a faint note of licorice too. The flavor is quite alcoholic, in a nice way, with roasted malts in the back and lots of hops up front. A good bitterness too. Full-bodied and warming, almost sticky. Lasting finish with alcohol, roasted malts and loads of hops. A big one, a wonderful one. 110420

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jtclockwork (16600) - , New Jersey, USA - DEC 2, 2010
Bottle thanks to Jcwattsrugger. Pours black with tan head. Nose and taste of cedar, honey, roasted chocolate malts, light vanilla and hops. The cedar really dominates the nose and taste.


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