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RATINGS: 302   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

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jethrodium (366) - Berkeley, California, USA - JAN 10, 2011
12 oz bottle. Pours a dark black with a very small tan head leaving a lot of small spots of lacing on the glass. Aroma is pine and citrus hops, light tobacco, and light coffee. Initial taste is sweet with citrus hops, then going into roasted malt and light coffee. Finish is tobacco with a decent bitterness. Full bodied. Light carbonation. Tasty beer. Seemed a little more bitter than Or.

3.5
mpersinger (366) - , California, USA - JAN 22, 2011
UPDATED: JAN 23, 2011 Aroma dominated by American hop bouquet (slight acidic note) in this pour from 12 oz bottle. Deepest brown opaque with huge tan billowing tight-beaded head. American hop resinous flavor with dark malt undertones, hint of smoke and scotch notes, with medium body. Alcohol warmth and overblown American hop resiny flavors lead to muddled finish. So for me it’s not either or or, I prefer Either.

3.8
BrianDorry55 (361) - Spring Hill, Florida, USA - JAN 6, 2011
12oz bottle from CCB. Pours black with a small beige head. Aroma is very roasty with some nice hop notes and some cedar. Flavor is more on the roasty cedar side with some nice hop complements. Medium bodied with a little heat. Overall....another well done Black IPA however the "Either" is more my style.

4.4
IPAsavedMYlife (346) - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - DEC 5, 2010
Nice amount of tasty head. Very fresh and floral on the nose like fresh cut grass. Taste is sweet can taste the honey some, but many notes of a nutty IPA. Quite sweet and roasty like a stout. Finishes hoppy and slightly bitter with some coffee notes Nice black IPA. Lands somewhere between a stout and an IPA. Alcohol is well hidden. Not viscus at all. Maybe my palate has gone stupid today, but I can’t find a weak spot.

4.4
jrmac (335) - South Carolina, USA - JUL 23, 2011
Pour is dark black, with a thin tan head, The nose is honey and cedar with notes of alcohol. The palate is....divine with bursts of hops, cocoa, honey, and cedar. Probably the best beer I have tasted in months.

4.3
Maltajo (330) - Tucson, Arizona, USA - OCT 23, 2011
12 oz bottle care of DChmela. Thanks Bro. Wonderful black pour with a nice head. Crisp and bold. Spicy and full of flavor.

4.2
mcmd (315) - Louisville, Kentucky, USA - DEC 3, 2012
pours black with thin mocha head. aroma of hops, woods, chocolate. Taste is chocolate, espresso, honey, cedar, hops bitter in finsh

4.1
igniztion (313) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - MAR 29, 2011
Bottle 355ml at home. Pours black with dense, tan head. Aroma is coffee, wood, roasted malts, spices, citrus. Taste is light sweet, medium bitter. Full body, oily, soft carbonation.

4.1
ruskiimperial (308) - Richmond, Virginia, USA - MAR 11, 2011
Poured a very dark blackish brown with a good two fingers of head. The aroma is very heavy on the sweet malty and dark fruit. The taste is quite heavy molasses, maple syrup, but also an aftertaste of some significant piney hops. The body is surprisingly heavy on this one. A bit of alcoholic burn. A very interesting and well made dark ipa.


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