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RATINGS: 297   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.89/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

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3.6
brokensail (16486) - Dublin, California, USA - MAY 31, 2011
A: The beer pours a very dark brown color with a thin layer of off-white/tan foam. S: Fairly heavy on the roast and chocolate notes with a moderate licorice quality. Some mild booze is also in there. A solid hop presence with a nice citrus (grapefruit) and pine note. T: Grapefruit and other citrus hops are prominent up front. A mild pineapple flavor as well as some grass and a hint of pine round out the hop profile. Fairly roasty with a nice hint of licorice. M: Medium to full in body with a medium level of carbonation. O: I was expecting this to be pretty harsh at 11%, but really nice and easy to drink.

3.9
Dedollewaitor (16174) - Odense, DENMARK - FEB 17, 2011
Bottle @ Odense Tasting, Feb. 2011. Pours black with a creamy beige head. Nose is grapefruit, toffee and caramel. Smooth. Dry and bitter flavor. Cedar and grapefruit. Very dry and bitter hoppy end.

3.7
Benzai (15819) - Oirschot, THE NETHERLANDS, NETHERLANDS - JUN 29, 2011
Bottle at Joes, thanks for sharing. Another taste at Alvinne CBF 2011. Pitch black opaque color. Smell is ok, taste nice light bitter. Alcohol very well hidden, very nice body and carbo.

3.7
bhensonb (15342) - Woodland, California, USA - MAR 18, 2014
Bottle shared by oRos. Pours dark brown with a tan head. Aroma is a bit of pine, with chocolate and dark malt. Med body. Flavor is lightly minty chocolate with dark malt.

4.1
Theis (15152) - Frederiksberg, DENMARK - FEB 4, 2011
Bottle at Sune’s. Pitch black - brown head. Roasted malty. Honey sweetness. Fruity. High bitterness. Piney. Grassy. Fruity. Light woody. Coffee. Peppery. Rubbery. Lovely bitterness.

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gunnfryd (14961) - Kristiansand, NORWAY - JUN 6, 2011
Bottle. Black colour with a tan head. Aroma is roasted, smoked malt, coffee, alcohol, grapefruit. Flavour is roasted smoked malt, coffee, hop, grapefruit, alcohol. Full bodied nice beer.

3.5
Ratman197 (14958) - Arvada, Colorado, USA - JUN 1, 2011
Bottle courtesy of Doodler poured a clear dark brown with a small lingering brown head. Aromas of roastiness, cocoa, earthinesslight cedar, light honey and light dried fruit. Palate was medium bodied and smooth. Flavors of roastiness, bitter chocolate, cedar and light honey with a smooth lingering roasty finish.

3.5
DSG (14921) - Tel Aviv, ISRAEL - MAR 12, 2011
[3/4/11] Bottle at ACBF 2011. Black. Aroma has some roastiness, coffee, some piney hops and some fruitiness. Burnt bitter flavor with quite a bit of of hops. Full-bodied.

3.8
Tmoney99 (14609) - Cincinnati, Ohio, USA - NOV 18, 2010
Draft at CC. Poured black color with an average frothy brown head that lasted and produced good lacing. Moderate to heavy toasted malt, dark honey, wood and alcohol aroma. Medium to full body with a smooth texture and flat carbonation. Moderate to heavy toasted honey sweet flavor with a medium to heavy sweet finish of moderate to long duration. This is a good but not a standout beer.

3.7
HenrikSoegaard (14235) - Randers, DENMARK - FEB 14, 2011
Bottle. Creamy lightbrown good mostly lasting head. Balck colour. Moderate malty and hoppy aroma. Average moderate bitter flavor. Some chocolate notes. Slightly swetrer than either. Creamy palate.


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