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RATINGS: 298   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.89/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

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3.7
HenrikSoegaard (14450) - Randers, DENMARK - FEB 14, 2011
Bottle. Creamy lightbrown good mostly lasting head. Balck colour. Moderate malty and hoppy aroma. Average moderate bitter flavor. Some chocolate notes. Slightly swetrer than either. Creamy palate.

3.3
argo0 (14127) - Washington DC, USA - MAR 20, 2011
Bottle. Minimal tan head atop black body with brown edge. Aroma is moderately sweet, coffee, caramel, chocolate, some orange. Taste is moderately sweet, caramel, bittersweet chocolate, plum/raisin, orange/grapefruit. Sticky medium-full body, low carbonation, somewhat smooth.

4.1
Christian (13775) - Odense, DENMARK - FEB 17, 2011
Black with a small but lasting tan head. Aroma of licoriice and citrus, lots of orange peel, with some dark chocolate. The aroma is complex and very inviting. Sweet flavour with lots of toffee, some licorice and a hint of roasted flavour. Lots of fruity hops, along with hop bitterness and a tannic cedar bitterness

3.6
bierkoning (13607) - La Tropica/Doarp, NETHERLANDS - FEB 21, 2011
Bottle Almost black and opague. Malt and especially honey in the aroma. Malty sweet flavor with roast, hints of ash, honey and woody notes. Alcoholic. Roasty, honeyish aftertaste with loads of hops and dried red fruit.

4.3
Bov (13221) - Bienne, SWITZERLAND - DEC 13, 2012
from Erzboerschof - black beer with no head retention; the nose is woody and piney; aroma of black chocolate and honey; pretty roasted; full-bodied and very tasty; some astringency, hugely bitter, pretty dry and long hoppy, chocolatey and woody finish - huge stuff !

4
j12601 (13033) - Poughkeepsie, New York, USA - NOV 18, 2010
On tap at the Blind Tiger during their Cigar City event. Pours a deep black with a thin tan head. Looks nearly identical to the Either, and a couple of points I’d see people get both and then get all confused as to which one they had. Similar aromas to the Either, but more coffee notes with a bigger amount of spicy raw hops. Sweet roast, but again the big spiciness of the hops cuts right through. Long char, roast and a great quinine note on the finish. Both amazing, but definitely distinct. I just realized that I had meant to at some point blend the two together and forgot. Still delicious.

4
Camons (13018) - Hasselager, DENMARK - AUG 17, 2011
Bottle @ Home. Pours black with a creamy tan head. Aroma of roasted malt, caramel, coffee ande lots of citrussly / pliny hops. Taste is malt, coffee, sweet caramel, honey notes, grapefruit and pinelike hops. Medium body, soft carbonation, well balanced between the malty and hoppy elements with a lasting bitter finish. Very nice. 170811

4
hopdog (12953) - Lansdale, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 11, 2010
12oz bottle. Poured a dark black color with a very small sized off white head. Aromas of roast, breadiness, chocolate, some woodiness, and earthy. Tastes of roast, chocolate, earthy, floral, honey sweetness, and woodiness.

4.2
thewolf (12747) - Kolding, DENMARK - MAR 7, 2011
Bottle, bought @ Skjold Burne, Aarhus.
All black with a large, creamy, light-brown head. Good duration and nice lacings. Aroma is lovely, good wood with piney and fruity hops. Mild vinious, some grapefruit, apricot, honey, plant sap. Medium carbonation, lovely light and creamy mouthfeel. Lovely balanced flavour, good liqourice, mild vinious, some coffee and bitter dark chocolate. Good hops bite, lots of pine, plant sap and grapefruit. Lovely beer.

4.3
slowrunner77 (12591) - Reno, Nevada, USA - SEP 27, 2014
"aroma falls just a hair short of it’c cousin Either, but the overall impact abd flavor are bettter. the cedar is not so strong in the finish, but evenly eveident throughout, and the complexity is the beers strongest point. licorice, honey, chocolate, roasted malt, hops, cigar...not as sweet as the other. VERY nice."


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