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RATINGS: 302   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

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konstifik (573) - SWEDEN - FEB 19, 2011
My first perfect 5! Almost black with a small beige head. Lovely aroma of grassy, grapey, piney and fruity hops in a big great mix with chocolate and honey. The balance between the level of roast and hops is perfect. I love the slight cedar notes and how this beer manages to combine roastiness, bitterness, hop flavour and complete smoothness. Freakin’ awesome beer!

4.8
BillZav (22) - Sarasota, Florida, USA - JAN 16, 2011
Brewed in the trendy Cascadian dark ale style, these ale is part of the Either/Or collaboration with Danish brewery Grassroots and Vermont brewery Hill Farmstead. Or is chocolate in color, with substantial notes of piny hops complimented by roasted malt and chocolate with a woody feel from the cedar barrel aging.

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4.7
daknole (11402) - Scottsdale, Arizona, USA - DEC 9, 2010
Black pour, creamy tan head. Hops up front in the aroma with toasted malt, pumpernickel bread, a little tar and some cane syrup. Flavor is sweet up front, hoppy, light smoke, grade b maple syrup, molasses. This is a world class black IPA. YES!

4.7
Rustyham (1836) - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - JAN 23, 2011
Bottle from Sunset Corners, Miami. I though this was way better then Either. Very thick, full bodied- this has a great burnt hoppiness to it, lots of honey and roasted malt. Sweet, burnt, crisp, toasty, and still hoppiness and generally light. Quite fantastic. Wish it came in bombers. Cedar is less noticeable in this one.

4.6
GatheringBrews (47) - Derby, Vermont, USA - NOV 21, 2010
Much like it’s companion beer, Either, this one pours a dark black/brown with a strong tan head.

Stronger hop character in the aroma, but still hints of malt, dark fruit that unique touch from the cedar.

Slightly drier mouthfeel and finish with much more pronounced hop flavor and less emphasis of the earthiness of Either. However, there’s still a unique tart from the cedar. Feels much more like a black IPA to me with the resinous backbone and drier finish, but still well balanced for such a big beer.

Drinking them side by side allows for a good comparison of the differences, for sure. Enjoyed the Either, but preferred the Or, only because it really hits home as a BIPA to me.


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