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RATINGS: 302   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.88/5   EST. CALORIES: 336   ABV: 11.2%
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High gravity black ale brewed with Ty Ty honey, copious amounts of hops and aged on toasted Spanish Cedar. Part 2 of a 4 beer collaboration between Cigar City, Hill Farmstead, and Grassroots. A note from Joey Redner: "The beers are basically black IPA’s brewed with lots of Citra, Mt. Rainier and Simcoe along with Ty Ty honey from North Florida aged on medium toast Spanish Cedar. There are different hop additions in the Hill Farmstead/Grassroots version (Or) and the 2-row base malt in the CCB version (Either) is replaced with Pilsner malt in the Vermont/Denmark version (Or). There are also some process differences which is one of the purposes of a collaboration; allowing breweries to learn from each other. The goal was to make two beers that were alike, but slightly different due to preferences in regional approach and access to ingredients. The four beers in this collaborative series will be named: Either, Or, Neither and Nor. Either and Or will release first and the other two will follow. Both Either and Or were brewed at CCB, but Neither and Nor will be brewed as single batches in both Vermont and Denmark.

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4.4
Pawola22 (3262) - Woodridge, Illinois, USA - FEB 25, 2011
12oz bottle my brother brought back from Tampa, thanks Jeff! Compared side-by-side with "Either." Pours a black body with a finger-width, dense and creamy, darker brown head that dissipates slowly and leaves a nice lacing throughout. Actually a bit more on the creamier side and some more lacing than the "Either." Aroma is very similar to the "Either," but a bit sharper when it comes to the roasts and hops. Tons of toasted cedar up front with plenty of dusty and musty earthy hops. Plenty of caramel to balance, however, not quite as sweet and pronounced as the "Either." Lots of tobacco and some smoke, citrusy pines with light resins, roasts, dry cocoas, some pepper, and a touch of molasses sweetness behind the caramel as this warms more. Flavor has tons of sharper, heavier pines and earthy hops up front with lots of citruses. Lots of balanced, toasted cedar, roasts, tobacco, and a moderate char come in along with dry cocoas. This is slightly less sweet and juicy than the "Either," but I like how the bold, deeper flavors take the forefront in this one. The pines do grow a bit sweet towards the finish with a bit of a juicy citrus, but there is more of an earthy spice that adds more complexity to the hopping when compared to the "Either." Finishes very dry with plenty of resiny pines, earth, toasted and slightly charred cedar, heavy roasts, and tobacco smoke all balanced nicely by a solid caramel and cocoa. Very lengthy aftertaste following a medium, very soft and creamy, almost full body with a soft, creamy, medium carbonation. This is ever-so-slightly lighter than the "Either," but still drinks splendidly. Overall, this beer along with the "Either" are definitely my kinds of beers. Toooons of bold flavors all balanced extremely well with an exceptional palate. This one leans a bit more towards the roasts and deeper hop flavors, which I tend to like better. Very similar to the "Or," but I like this one a bit more because of the awesome balance and slightly deeper flavor. Damn, these two were spectacular.

4.4
dnstone (3681) - Kansas City, Missouri, USA - MAR 13, 2011
Hoppy-roasty aroma. Deep brown/black in color with a tan head. Really a stout-like IPA (the "either" seemed more like a IPA-like stout) with great coffee and chocolate flavors and a hop strength. A great, complex beer. Notes: Bottle at Alvinne CBF ’11

4.4
jesperhammer (5017) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - APR 17, 2011
17-APR-2011, bottle @home, from "Fish & Beer". Tasted side by side with "Either". Pours very very dark brown with a huge brown head that lasts. Much more head than with "EITHER" and it really messes up the glass. Different pour hight or force? But it happens again with the second pour. Roasted nose with spices, coffee and bitterness on the nose. Taste is somewhat sweet with all the coffee and chocolate notes on top of a very present bitterness. Alcohol can be felt. I am not really thinking black IPA here. More like barrel aged american strong ale as in "Lost Abbey" - like bordering on a stout. Best black IPA I have had. What a brew. Sadly it ends too quick. 99% alike but still... "EITHER" wins.

4.4
cmonster (1000) - Portland, Oregon, USA - MAY 23, 2011
Bottle served in a tulip. Pours dark brown, burnt motor oil. Large milk chocolate colored head with decent retention and good lacing. Rich, sweet nose of cedar, molasses, honey, coffee, and dank earthy hops. Very sweet flavor. Big body, thick texture, soft carbonation, and an ultra long roasty, big bitter finish. Wow this is good!

4.4
jrmac (335) - South Carolina, USA - JUL 23, 2011
Pour is dark black, with a thin tan head, The nose is honey and cedar with notes of alcohol. The palate is....divine with bursts of hops, cocoa, honey, and cedar. Probably the best beer I have tasted in months.

4.4
Alengrin (5884) - BELGIUM - AUG 25, 2014
UPDATED: DEC 24, 2016 Collaboration between three breweries, identical to their Either, but with other regional malts and hops. The result is visually the same, but aroma and taste clearly tend more to fruitiness, less dry, more honeyish and chocolatey and in all, rounder and ’friendlier’; hops still govern the finish with a firm hand, strong and long-lasting. Fantastic brew, I liked this even more than the Either, already a very good and fascinating brew in itself.

4.3
jredmond (8839) - New York, New York, USA - DEC 3, 2010
Bottle split with pat and Linh. Pours a pitch black with nice light brown lacing. Delicious citrus and pine hop and cedar. Mouthfeel is incredible notes of citrus hop, pine, honey, wood.

4.3
patrickfannon (1242) - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 3, 2010
Bottle. 12 oz. Split with James and Linh. Courtesy of James. Pours a deep, hazy, coffee brown with a thin, lacy off-white head. Aroma of sweet honey, floral lavender, roasty malts, and hints of coffee and fresh red pepper. Medium to full bodied with a sticky, yet firmly malty and rich palate. Slight spice and chocolate bitter notes on the tongue. Finishes quickly and with a bit of roast and dry hops. Excellent black IPA.

4.3
craftbeerdesign (2254) - Fort Collins, Colorado, USA - JAN 7, 2011
bottle side by side with ’Either’. deep black pour with a 1/4" tan head. deep bitter nose with big notes of cedar (greater depth than ’Or’). medium body with more cedar notes throughout. very smooth from front to back. some light chocolate comes forward along with some darker fruit notes. big finish with spicy cedar notes, figs, light cherries, peat and some alcohol warmth. Or wins the side by side for me.

4.3
lassem (660) - Copenhagen, DENMARK - JAN 10, 2011
My rating nr. 550 goes out to this unique brew that is a colab between some of the most interesting brewerys thats out there at the moment. Hill Farmstead (and Grassroots) and Cigar City from Florida. This dark beauty pours an almost black with a nice cappochino-coloured head. When poured its blasting out tons of hops along with a nice malty roastyness - really nice balanced actually. The first thing I notice when tasting is the burnt roastyness with an upfront ang agressive alcohol-profile. Then it turns over to focus on a mild caramel taste and a great bitter and citric hopping. The palate is really dilicious with a creamy body and round feeling - and despite the firt impression of the alchol it actually turns out to very balanced - and the beer is huge but easy to drink. Yummie!!


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