De Leite Fils à Papa VII (2017/2)

Brewed by De Leite
Style: Sour Red/Brown
Oostkamp - Ruddervoorde, Belgium
Serve in Snifter, Tulip, Tumbler


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RATINGS: 23   MEAN: 3.57/5.0   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.48/5   IBU: 48   EST. CALORIES: 210   ABV: 7%
Dubbel Kriek - oak aged.

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Alengrin (6202) - BELGIUM - MAR 30, 2018
Another Fils à Papa, the second one from last year, with cherries; bottle from the Prik & Tik in Zele. Membranous-lacing, thick, moussy, frothy head, pale greyish white, very stable (only very slowly thinning and eventually opening in small gaps); initially cristal clear, copper-tinged vermillion red colour with strings of small bubbles here and there, turning totally cloudy and deeper burgundy (brownish red) with sediment. Aroma of lots of cherries, sour cherries but sweet and even a strange whiff of candied cherries (strangely a bit red candy-like) as well, a hibiscus flower taken from a glass of rosé wine, ketjap, butter cake, wet old oak furniture, stewed rhubarb, bee balm, candy apple, blackberry jam, passionfruit yoghurt, melting caramel or toffee, soggy brown bread, hints of wheat flour, rosehip tea, wet clay, sugar-glazed red beets, cream, elderberry syrup and, for a brief moment, a volatile, subtle and luckily fading whiff of rotting cabbage leaves or even cow manure appearing when the sediment is added. Crisp, very fruity onset, sour cherry briskness but not completely drenched in sour cherry flavour: it is sour, sure, but mellowly so - yet still a soft lactic acidity dries the whole palate, even if remaining balanced by sweetness of added sugars on the one hand (contributing to an underlying candied cherry-like sweetish note) and lightly caramelly, bready, soft maltiness on the other hand. Red apple- and ripe brambleberry-like sweet fruity notes too; carbonation is softish, mouthfeel full but slick and soapy due to the wheat. White bread-like wheatiness is quite pronounced next to the aforementioned caramelly maltiness. The initial sourness nicely dries the palate at the back, seemingly stronger than in the onset; underneath the lingering fruity aspects and that residual sugariness which almost sticks a bit to the teeth, an earthy yeastiness builds especially after adding the sediment, establishing pleasant breadiness. Retronasally a dash of the manure-like touch reappears - again to vanish again very quickly. Herbal, tea-like aspects adorn the finish too, apparently herbs (not just hops) have effectively been added but in a way so subtle that it is near to impossible to identify which ones; my guess would be hibiscus, but whatever it is, it only acts to faintly accentuate the herbal, soft character of the hops, which provide only very late, very vague and very superficial background bitterishness. The wood tannins are more outspoken, with a vague, almost 'hidden' vanilla-ish oak effect peeping through. Ends sweet-and-sour, almost ketjap-ish, dried by the sourness and the woodiness but still juicy and round. Another well-made Fils à Papa from this low profile craft brewer in Ruddervoorde, very obviously building on the tradition of cherry beers based on 'Vlaams rood' and made with sour cherries, retaining that same subtle candied 'red' sweetish touch, though sourness dominates, as is the case in the two ultimate traditional embodiments of this concept, Rodenbach Alexander and Verhaeghe Echt Kriekenbier (I should revisit the latter, though - it's been ages). Pleasant and relatively accessible due to that sugary sweet aspect which has a softening effect, but a bit too accessible perhaps for seasoned beer geeks with a 21st-century palate? I prefer to see this in the tradition of Echt Kriekenbier and Alexander, and in that sense this is very comparable and of an equal level of complexity.

guzgorog (1027) - FRANCE - JAN 25, 2018
Robe brune rouge superbe, mousse beige avec des reflets rosés moyenne. Nez cerise, cidre, bois, cuir. Attaque acide, cerise, puis pomme verte, cidre, et enfin le tonneau s'exprime avec des saveurs boisés. Belle longueur, la cerise est bien présente tout au long de la dégustation sans jamais prendre le dessus, acidité/astringence modérée, bonne carbo, léger sucre. Excellente bière très originale !

sebsky (549) - ENGLAND - DEC 26, 2017
330 ml bottle from Stoneworks,Peterborough,bb 15/03/2020. Brown/red,murky. Nose - barnyard,red cherry,sour. Taste - sour,cherries,other berries.

bierkoning (14027) - La Tropica/Doarp, NETHERLANDS - NOV 14, 2017
Bottle, thanks Borresteijn! Amber color. Hints of cherry juice and caramel in the aroma. Sour flavor with hints of cherry and marzipan. Dry. Not bad.

thepatrickman (1503) - Lewes, East Sussex, ENGLAND - OCT 23, 2017
Bottle, back in June. An interesting sour brown with some great tangy notes and a really nice funky aroma. Slightly thin. Fun to try.

alteregoo (1963) - Kalisz, POLAND - AUG 8, 2017
Piana dość obfita, mydlana, średnio trwała. Barwa rubinowa, opalizująca. Aromat przyjemnie wiśniowy, pestkowy, rodzynkowy i karmelowy jednocześnie... W smaku kwaskowo słodkie, są wiśnie, czerwone wino, lekka taniczność, a z drugiej strony suszone owoce, melasa, karmel, ciemny miód... Niska, migdałowo ziołowa goryczka, wysokie, musujące wysycenie, pijalne i delikatnie wyklejające usta w odbiorze.
Świetne połączenie, kwasno-słodkie piwo z pieknie ukrytym alko, orzeźwiające i deserowe jednocześnie. Taka wisienka na torcie :D

kermis (15415) - Amsterdam-ish, NETHERLANDS - AUG 5, 2017
7 3 8 3 15
Bottle shared. Hazy dark amber with an off white head. Aroma is herbal with tart cherries, oak, vinous notes, caramel and malt. Flavour is moderate sweet and sour. Medium bodied with a lactic burn in the finish and soft carbonation.

Maakun (7235) - The Hague, NETHERLANDS - AUG 5, 2017
Another bottle shared in the train in a cut in half plastic bottle. Hazy dark red with pinkish beige head. Sour cherries, quite some herbs, oxidized malts, cooked raspberries, soft red wine and dusty grapes, light caramel, soft dry sherry. Under medium sweet, sour and bitter. Medium bodied. Nice.

Jerre (3917) - Waregem, BELGIUM - JUL 23, 2017
Geproefd op ZBF zondag 23 april ’17. Wazig roodbruin bier met crème gebroken witte schuimkraag. Aroma: zoet, fruitig, hout, beetje zuur, krieken. Medium body. Smaak: licht zuur, tannine, amandeltoets, droog, krieken. Maar vorige versie (VI) was meer mijn voorkeur.

DwarfeD (3501) - Amersfoort, NETHERLANDS - JUL 10, 2017
33cl bottle at home. Hazy reddish brown with a medium slightly off-white head. Medium body with quite some carbonation. Sour and sweet tones. Tart, cherries, oak, caramel and citrus. OK, but had better brews in this series.

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