De Leite Fils à Papa VI (2017)

 
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Formerly brewed at De Leite
Style: Sour Red/Brown
Oostkamp - Ruddervoorde, Belgium
Serve in Snifter, Tulip, Tumbler

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RATINGS: 22   MEAN: 3.47/5.0   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.39/5   EST. CALORIES: 195   ABV: 6.5%
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3.4
bierkoning (13740) - La Tropica/Doarp, NETHERLANDS - NOV 14, 2017
Bottle, thanks to Borresteijn. Reddish dark amber color. Apple, caramel and winevinegar in the aroma. Oak, caramel and vinous notes in the sour flavor. Speculaas, red berries. Honey. Nice.

3.6
Alengrin (5779) - BELGIUM - OCT 27, 2017
Bottle from Etre Gourmet. Another rendition of the Fils à Papa 'oud bruin', a 'pop-up beer' as is mentioned on the front label, but I am still trying to figure out what the difference is between all these different versions. Anyway, it's a new tick and so far this series has not disappointed me, so here we go: medium sized, lightly lacing, pale greyish white, moussy head quickly reduced to a creamy ring around the glass and some small flat 'islands' in the middle, over a moderately hazy, warm burgundy brownish beer with wine red tinge. Aroma of overripe red apple, unsugared yoghurt, blackberry juice, fermenting blue plums, quite pronounced wet oak wood (soaking wet old oak chairs and tables) including its vaguely vanilla-ish scent, a lot of balsamico of the very kind you pour over a salad, very old candi sugar rocks, passionfruit, raw beetroot juice, raw cinnamon (which I noticed even before I read that this spice has actually been applied here), nutmeg, butterscotch, walnut liqueur, very old sweet sherry, Merlot, almond, grapeseed oil, subtle hints of dusty book shelves, pumpkin seed, old dried ginger, chocolate powder, jute bags - in all, credible for a Flemish red, but distinctive and interesting. Kicks off with the expected mixture of sweet peach, blue plum and ripe pear with sour blackberry, medlar and unripe nectarine but also rather pronounced balsamic vinegar, a tad wry and astringent, but thoroughly drying the palate, with the right amount of residual 'brown sugary' sweetness remaining in place to more or less counterbalance it - more or less, because the sourness proves stronger than any kind of sweetness. Carbonation is medium, mouthfeel is mellow and supple. The fruitiness and (especially) the balsamic vinegar-like flavour, sour and a tad umami as well, accompanies a slick, mildly nutty, caramelly maltiness that, in the finish, is further dried by tannic effects from the wood, with that very vague and subtle vanilla-ish touch to it, but much more an effect of dusty old furniture; hop bitterness is of a quite silent, earthy, deeply buried nature but well-applied for a beer in this particular style and does provide some lingering peppery bitterness on the root of the tongue after swallowing, a little bit more vividly so than one normally expects from an 'oud bruin'. Ends with that balsamico-like effect lingering, sour and tart but softened by residues of that caramelly malt and sugary sweetness but also a powdery, sweetish cinnamon note; not softened enough, however, to avoid the effect of having swallowed a spoonful of balsamico sweetened with brown sugar and a bit spiced with that same cinnamon. A bit too sour for its own good perhaps, clearly too vinegary in comparison with the truly great Flemish red ales (think of Rodenbach's most highly profiled products, for example); in that sense one of the lesser editions of this Fils à Papa series to me, but still not as vinegary as e.g. Verzet's 'oud bruin' creations so probably still enjoyable and, however astringent, I think it contains enough caramelly sweetness to remain relatively accessible to the average 'oud bruin' drinker - which is a species in danger of extinction, after having flourished back in the eighties. Not the very best Fils à Papa so far to me, just too balsamico-like in spite of the redeeming addition of cinnamon, but still interesting to a sourhead like me, and another proof that this Leite brewery, whom I remember starting up with a simple blonde (which they insisted was an 'amber' - we're talking Femme Fatale here), has chosen the right path when they decided to make tart, wine barrel aged and / or intentionally soured beers.

3.6
L_Lovecraft (744) - - OCT 17, 2017
Strong woodie and okie notes, red fruits, strong acetic notes, beautiful reddish color with no head, medium body, very acetic, one of the most acetic that i've ever tried...ok is a strange and unbalanced beer but not so bad afterall, at least for me.

3.4
90 (879) - BELGIUM - SEP 18, 2017
Bought @ Willems.
Aroma is glue and dissolver. But not really in a nice way. Sour red with glue and oak. Palate is smooth and a tad puckering. Too much glue to my taste.


4
Jerre (3826) - Waregem, BELGIUM - JUL 23, 2017
Als een van eerste biertjes geproefd op Brugs Bierfestival, zat. 04 febr. ’17.
Wazig roodbruin bier, met cremige beige schuimkraag.
Aroma: Wat een neus ! heerlijk zuurtje, kruidig, karamel, vineus. Medium body.
Smaak: zoetje, maar ook machtig zuurtje perfect in avenwicht, zachtbitter, droog, karamel ook hier wat vineus.
Bijzonder aangenaam. Echt een lekker bier !

4.4
JefVerstraete (3669) - Oosterzele, BELGIUM - JUL 19, 2017
Bottle from Geers. Hazy red/brown colour, thin layer of foam. Nose of red berries, balsamic vinegar, oak. Very fruity (sweet) and tart taste. Well balanced. Very nice!

3.4
SinH4 (6393) - Garching b. München, GERMANY - JUL 15, 2017

Bottle. Brown color with tan head. Aroma is wood, oak, brown sugar. Taste is oak, brown sugar, a touch acetone, cherries. Silky mouthfeel. Nice, but a touch too sweet.

3.3
ShivanDragon (4648) - Leeuwarden, NETHERLANDS - JUL 9, 2017
bruin met rode gloed, en lichte kraag. aroma van hout, donker fruit, eikenhout, zure bessen, rood fruit, wijn. smaken ... damn dat is initieel vrij zuur... vlakt wel wat af gelukkig... pleisters, hout, wijn, azijn, zoetig, melkzuur, yoghurt, roder kersen, matige body, redelijk zoet. nah

4.4
minutemat (6133) - Shropshire, ENGLAND - JUL 4, 2017
330ml bottle from Vanuxeem. Pours a hazed reddish brown, small off-white head. Aroma is complex, sweet, vinous, lactic, woody. Taste is similarly complex, sharp, with crisp sour definition, layered berry fruits, vinous oak with a nice acidic character. Seems from ratings below there could be some bad bottles of this, but mine was excellent.

3.5
Maakun (6543) - The Hague, NETHERLANDS - JUN 30, 2017
Bottle at home. Hazy deep reddish brown. Sour balsamico, light lactic notes, soft glue, lots of red berries and sweet overripe cherries, sweet malts, light grass, bread. Medium sour, under medium sweet and light bitter. Over medium bodied with fine but present carbonation. A bit gluey and hot but quite nice otherwise. It does open up a bit after some time in the glass which does away with the acetone notes.


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