De Molen Donder & Bliksem (Thunder & Lightning) USA version

Formerly brewed at Brouwerij de Molen
Style: Doppelbock
Bodegraven, Netherlands


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RATINGS: 88   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.48/5   EST. CALORIES: 246   ABV: 8.2%
28.7 EBU Premiant and Saaz hops 105 EBC

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ddemmingjr (890) - Chagrin Falls, Ohio, USA - MAY 9, 2010
A dark, chocolately reddish brown pour and head.roasty, musty,earthy. As the beer breathes, nuances appear. This is a cloudy, brown beer, medium to heavy sourness, medium body, a bit slick in texture, fizzy carbonation, astringent finish. Overall, a beer that is very distinctive as it warms and breaths. Getting better by the minute

redlight (2325) - Orlando, Florida, USA - MAY 5, 2010
750 ml bottle. Caramel malts with hints of spice and grassy notes. Pours a dark amber with a thin white head that dissipates. Very rich caramel notes, hints of funk with hints of sour apple and mild citrus notes with spicy dry finish. Pretty good.

JCB (3999) - Durham, North Carolina, USA - MAY 2, 2010
750ml from the MJBC. Nice ruddy brown pour, soupy looking but with a substantial head that suggests it’s got some life to it. Nose is vinegar, another De Molen infection alas. Body is thin, adding to the off quality of the brew. As you get into the beer, you can certainly detect the makings of a decent doppel. But there are no hops to speak of, and the complex fruit/malt interface one wants is definitely riding shotgun to the funk. So if you think of it as a sour doppel it kinda works.

TheBeerGod (6261) - Newport News, Virginia, USA - MAY 1, 2010
Bottle - 750mL - corked and caged from the Rare Beer Club. Vintage 2007 - cork stamped 2.007. Dark, murky brown pour with a short beige colored head. Aroma is dark fruit, cocoa, caramel, light yeast and sweet malt. Taste is dark fruit, sweet malt, chocolate covered nuts, cocoa, dusty yeast and light floral hops. Body is light-medium and the carbonation moderate and effervescent. Ends with more cocoa, light chocolate, caramel, dark fruit and yeast notes.

Walt (2449) - Austin, Texas, USA - APR 26, 2010
Pour is hazed mahogany and ruddy amber with a thin skin of a tan head...smell is toasty and and sweet with some pecans and walnuts and a hint of wet cardboard...some cinnamon maybe too...old stale bread...taste is sweet too with caramel and molasses...then just stale cardboard...blech.

Ratman197 (15372) - Arvada, Colorado, USA - APR 24, 2010
750 ml corked and caged bottle poured a cloudy brown with a small lingering tan head. Aromas of urine, vinegar, carmel, pineapple, toffee and earthiness. Palate was light bodied and crisp with a smooth lightly tart finish. Flavors of carmel, raisin, vinegar, plum, earthiness and barnyard funk with a smooth dry funky finish.

ajm (1072) - Los Angeles, California, USA - MAR 4, 2010
Bottle from Harpreet, the mastermind behind Perry’s Livermore. Nose of tart malt, slight infection, and clean water. Light brown. Flavor confirmed infection, but also did nothing to liberate either the malt or the purported hops. DOPPELBOCK?!!

Damico (3150) - Royersford, Pennsylvania, USA - JAN 4, 2010
The sweet and malty smell is pleasing and continues to the palate. It is unique in the hops flavor - maybe the premiant hops, but rich ale flavor of sweet malts as well.

M’ARCOlizzo (31) - ITALY - DEC 26, 2009
Bottled. Hazy red brown coloured with a medium sized off white head. Yeasty and hoppy fruity aroma. Very fruity nose. The flavor is sweet and fruity hoppy. Hoppy and warming alcoholic finish.

Ughsmash (7510) - Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA - DEC 14, 2009
750mL bottle. Poured medium-deep coppery-amber with a surprisingly well-retained cap of dense tan head.. fine lacing and fine sediment as well if you look lower. The aroma picked up soft and sweet redder fruits, aged caramel, and a hint of maple topped by floral and earthy hoppage.. a little on the sweet side, but quite enticing. The flavor found dry molasses, caramel, and a pinch of dark chocolate at the core.. grainy earth joined herbal and medicinal notes on the edges.. finished sharp and slightly warmer than it should’ve been. Medium-plus bodied with mouth-filling carbonation on the palate.. the sweetness was decadent and almost candied, but the transitions between that and the hops weren’t great. I’d gladly drink this again.

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