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Formerly brewed at Stone Brewing
Style: Smoked
Escondido, California USA

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RATINGS: 407   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.49/5   SEASONAL: Special   EST. CALORIES: 204   ABV: 6.8%
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When two gypsies team up with an arrogant bastard, there is bound to be some criminal activity...better to view this project as a conspiracy rather than a collaboration. The strengths of all involved were utilized to break the laws of style guidelines...dark with deception, mysteriously smoked, unexplainably dry, and intriguingly hoppy...maybe its best not to even talk about it.

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3.8
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
dmac (5724) - Toms River, New Jersey, USA - NOV 29, 2012
12 oz bottle from Spirits Crossroads. Poured a good looking medium/thinner density dark black body with an average sized foamy beige head. Aroma was interesting and nice, notes of light smoke, roastiness, touch of chocolate from the dark malts, wet bread, saison spiceyness, wet white pepper, older citrus rinds. Medium/fuller body with average to stronger carbonation that leaves a creamy feel that is well balanced by the carbonation and an aveage aftertaste that is dry...just normally dry not "unexplainably dry". Flavor is a tad short of the aroma. Notes of wet burnt bread crusts, slight white pepper, citrus rinds, earthy, older fruits and some solid chocolate notes towards the end. I wasnt expecting much from this but am very pleasantly surprised.


2.9
   AROMA 5/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
Rumbero (32) - Miami, Florida, USA - NOV 17, 2016
muddy ruby brown with a thin tan head with low retention. on the nose, roasted malts, caramel and toffee. some spices and earthy yeast notes. medium body, rich texture, moderate carbonation, some astringency in the palate. taste is where the age of this beer shows up. mostly roasted malts, muted bitterness. the expected smokeyness is nowhere to be found and the fruity esters are absent. its mostly dry and just not much character left. but... no off aromas or flavors. finish is dry with a lengthy but faint bitterness. still drinkable but kind of a faceless black ale at this point. disclosure, was released almost 4 years ago.

2.9
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
katrinaez (1519) - norristown, Pennsylvania, USA - DEC 16, 2015
UPDATED: DEC 17, 2015 I like it enough, but it isn?t what it they said. More of a black ale than saison. The smoke is very light at the end. The saison taste is a flash in the pan and it?s gone to the ale only taste. It is a nice beer, but the rating is because I expected more. Bottle

2.6
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 5/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 7/20
tysongillmore (362) - Tucson, Arizona, USA - NOV 21, 2015
Burnt hop flavor. Not very good. I would not get this again. ---Rated via BeerBuddy for iPhone. ---Rated via Beer Buddy for iPhone

3.5
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 14/20
ramboraffe (1970) - Gteborg, SWEDEN - NOV 16, 2015
Sample at All in beer fest 2015. Black with tanned head. Roasted malt, smoke, herbal with coffee and ashes. Dry with medium bitterness and medium carbonation.

2.3
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 3/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 6/20
corby112 (2804) - philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA - NOV 11, 2015
Pours a dark chestnut brown color that appears pitch black and opaque in the glass with a two finger light beige head that slowly settles into a thick, lasting cap. Streaks of soapy left behind. Slightly smokey, roasted dark malt aroma with some peppery spice and funky Saison yeast notes. Hints of charcoal/campfire, smoked meat and ash along with dark chocolate, robust coffee and farmhouse funk. As it warms, the smoke gets a bit stronger, overpowering the Saison characteristics. Theres also some earthy, piney hops lingering underneath that comes more to the forefront as the beer comes to room temperature. Medium bodied with a really strange combination of smoked malt, earthy hops, peppery spice and funky yeast which results in an unpleasant, metallic/herbal/medicinal flavor thats hard to drink. Starts off with liquid smoke, burnt malt and charred malts but is quickly overtaken by resinous, piney hops. These two flavors really dont work well together and when you add the Saison/farmhouse elements, this turns into a mess of a beer. Very harsh and tough to choke down. I appreciate their experimentation but I hate the way this beer tastes.

3.4
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 2/5   OVERALL 14/20
patricks110 (2459) - Alberta, CANADA - APR 7, 2015
Found a notebook of old written reviews from 2012/2013. Pours a nearly opaque black body with a finger of frothy, splotchy tan head. The aroma is complicatedly complex with a light smoked earth notes atop, roasted malts, coffee, chocolate and a estery saison base. Nice and rich first sip with light espresso notes that balance with the smoky malts. Dark and complex saison style flavour. A meld of fruity, spicy esters and rich, robust malts. A nice experiment.

3
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 12/20
rdixon77 (2389) - Georgia, USA - MAR 30, 2015
Old rating. Interesting conceptnot sure if it worked. Chocolate colored. Peat, smoke, espresso, some citrus hops, and a weird sour finish. Not very saison or smoked beer like. A mutant.

3.2
   AROMA 6/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 6/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 13/20
rumproasts (5102) - Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA - JAN 24, 2015
bottle. Near black with one finger head. Ive yet to have a dark saison that hit the spot for me. Malty chocolate base kind of overpowers any of the other elements that I associate with the Saison style. Theres a little bit of smoke here, but its very subtle.

3.9
   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
DenverLogan (1123) - MileHi, Colorado, USA - JAN 5, 2015
From a 12 oz bottle into a Saxo chalice. Pours dark brown with big brown head and lace. Aroma of rich malts, chocolate, caramel, peat. Medium carbonation and mouthfeel. Flavors of roasty malts, peat, light smoke, bitter roots, wood. Overall rich with some complexity an a touch of bitterness.

3.6
   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 14/20
Fritz123 (1535) - Boca Raton, Florida, USA - NOV 6, 2014
Bottle at home poured into a snifter. Deep brown to black in color, rather thin looking with a mild one-half finger head that was brief. Not much lacing. The aroma was raosted malts, slight smokieness (nothing like a true raushbier), bread, cereal, and dark fruits. The taste is more like mild roasted malts, not much campfire, bread, slight pine hoppiness, and some dark prune or plums. Overall the taste was fine but a little underwhelming in flavors. Thin body, easy to drink. Finish is slightly roasted malts and a little hop bitterness.


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