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RATINGS: 63   WEIGHTED AVG: 3.95/5   SEASONAL: Summer   EST. CALORIES: 408   ABV: 13.6%
COMMERCIAL DESCRIPTION
Before the Dawn Black Barleywine aged in Templeton Rye Whiskey Barrels

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   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Nsanders (1039) - St Paul, Minnesota, USA - JUN 19, 2016
Tap at brewery. Black with a tan head. Roasted malts, molasses, prunes, leather, powdered sugar and whiskey. Light sugar sweetness with a dry fruit light bitter finish. Heavier body with an oily feel.

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   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
burgy (456) - Minnetonka, Minnesota, USA - JUL 27, 2012
UPDATED: DEC 8, 2012 As Minnesotas number 1 Templeton Rye drinker.... (yes I import one bottle on average every two months....) so I have two ratings for you. First is not compared to the whiskey, second is. First: Aromatics are HOT, with a little back bone of roast malt (barely...), chocolate, and burnt coffee. Pours jet black with little to no lacing but lacing is caramel in color. first taste is straight malt and roasted coffee with chocolate, followed by heat, finished by more chocolate. Palate is nice and mouthy fills without overwhelming. Overall a solid 3.7..... Second (paired with actual Templeton): Aromatics of the Templeton do not overwhelm the palate due to heat (like the beer does, where did the heat come from?), it is a subtle secondary, first being caramel followed by light rye. The beer imparts a deep dark roast. Appearance of both are vastly different. Beer looks awesome and whiskey looks awesome, respectful due to what they are. Taste of the whiskey followed by the beer (in true pairing style) is non-complementary.... (I thought they would piggyback each other) the beer kills any whiskey flavor or taste. Palate, each is great at the style. Overall, I do NOT think this beer captures any essence of Templeton Rye. I DO think its a great beer, just dont claim the awesomeness of Templeton if you cant back it up (Rye Wyne Ale did a FAN-Fin-TASTIC job though).... Sorry, I would rate this beer much higher than a 3.7 if you didnt claim the Templeton Rye part. I hope Templeton is more select in the choosing of where they sell their barrels next time.... 6-Month review - After a solid 6-month cooling off phase for the beer and myself i have an update! A lot of the above stands but the heat cooled down dramatically! Not as good as a fresh BCBS but still a great brew. I still taste no Templeton (must be the heavy roast malt covering it up). Overall I boosted this beer .3!

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   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
Steasy66 (1116) - Minnesota, USA - AUG 27, 2012
Black with no head. Aroma is sweet with toffee and strong alcohol notes. Taste is sweet, toffee, bit of toasted marshmallow. Body is fairly thin, hot, needs a bit more carbonation. Nice beer, had it next to BANE and MOAS, much better than BANE, slightly below MOAS.

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   AROMA 7/10   APPEARANCE 5/5   TASTE 9/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
jhatlestad (34) - Maple Grove, Minnesota, USA - AUG 31, 2012
Deep dark brown appearance with caramel head. Aroma is not to strong. Very smooth with low alcohol taste for the high abv. Very thick on the mouth with definite roasting. Burning feeling after flavor leaves.

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   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
5000 (6862) - Hardened Liver, Washington, USA - OCT 3, 2012
Bottle for rating #4400:   Black pour, thin light beige head, decent lacing.   Assertive whiskey nose, graham cracker, vanilla, toffee, smells very nice!   Also getting a nice roastiness on the backside.   As it warms toasted coconut comes out.   Gets more and more complex as it warms.   Very warming on the tongue. This is a sipper.   Wished it were a little more chewy, but thankfully its not sticky given its sweetness.   Big roasty toasted coconut on the finish, warming to the max.   This was real impressive.   Thanks Bob for this gem!


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   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Zymurgeist2 (1919) - Redwood City, California, USA - DEC 12, 2012
Tasted thanks to some new beer friends met at Gourmet Haus on Eclipse night. Pours a deep brown, almost black. Some flecks of ruby. Taste and aroma are full and deep dark fruit with some nice bitterness to balance it well. Excellent beer.

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   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 3/5   OVERALL 18/20
TheEpeeist (3709) - Media, Pennsylvania, USA - JUL 12, 2013
25.4 oz bottle. Dark brown with a coating tan slick. Nose is whiskey, coffee, chocolate liqueur and caramel. Medium to full body with a prickly tang. You can feel the heat but the alcohol is well hidden. Taste is caramel, whiskey, coffee and grapefruit with sweeter chocolate, blackberry and vanilla creeping in. Certainly interesting and a novel concept, though not quite top tier.

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   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 3/5   TASTE 7/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 18/20
djd07 (11361) - Houston, Texas, USA - JUN 10, 2014
Bottle thanks to Rob. Pours a dark brown with medium creamy tan head that lasts. The aroma is strong rye, oak, and wood. Slick mouthfeel with strong dark fruit, rye, wood, and light boozy finish. Very good.

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   AROMA 8/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 16/20
Maakun (4224) - The Hague, NETHERLANDS - NOV 27, 2015
Bottle at THT thanks to kermis. Black with short lasting light brown head. Bourbon, coffee, roasted grains, marzipan, bitter spices, old wood, brown sugar, Porto wine, fresh herbs. Quite sweet with roasted bitter finish. Full bodied with soft carbonation and slight alcohol. Nice.

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   AROMA 9/10   APPEARANCE 4/5   TASTE 8/10   PALATE 4/5   OVERALL 15/20
commonshawn (1081) - Minnesota, USA - FEB 11, 2016
Tap at dark horse. Black with tan head. Boozy chocolate nose. Sweet sugar, roasted chocolate, balanced alcohol finish. Full body, full flavor. Big and good beer.


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