Originally posted by SarkyNorthener
Originally posted by bartlebier
Would this be a good spot to lobby for moving Belgium out from between Belarus and Belize in the list of beery rogue nations?
I have always wondered why this wasn’t done with the others.
You might be underrating Belize a little bit.
But apparently it is a LOT more work than you’d think to do this. So when we do it, we have to be ready to do it for like 10-20 countries. Then it becomes a question of scarce resources and priorities. But yeah, this will need to be done. We’ll be freeing Belgium, Australia, Italy, Brazil, France and a bunch of others.
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Originally posted by Oakes
Originally posted by SarkyNorthener
Originally posted by bartlebier
Would this be a good spot to lobby for moving Belgium out from between Belarus and Belize in the list of beery rogue nations?
I have always wondered why this wasn’t done with the others.
You might be underrating Belize a little bit.
But apparently it is a LOT more work than you’d think to do this. So when we do it, we have to be ready to do it for like 10-20 countries. Then it becomes a question of scarce resources and priorities. But yeah, this will need to be done. We’ll be freeing Belgium, Australia, Italy, Brazil, France and a bunch of others.
I used to live in Belize, I know it’s beer scene well. I can’t see how I could underrate it.
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Originally posted by Oakes
Originally posted by SarkyNorthener
Originally posted by bartlebier
Would this be a good spot to lobby for moving Belgium out from between Belarus and Belize in the list of beery rogue nations?
I have always wondered why this wasn’t done with the others.
You might be underrating Belize a little bit.
But apparently it is a LOT more work than you’d think to do this. So when we do it, we have to be ready to do it for like 10-20 countries. Then it becomes a question of scarce resources and priorities. But yeah, this will need to be done. We’ll be freeing Belgium, Australia, Italy, Brazil, France and a bunch of others.
Belgium would not exactly be first in line to make a split. Judging by this list there are plenty of other countries where the situation demands it more: http://www.ratebeer.com/forums/year-end-count--of-breweries_269198.htm
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Originally posted by omhper
Originally posted by Oakes
Originally posted by SarkyNorthener
Originally posted by bartlebier
Would this be a good spot to lobby for moving Belgium out from between Belarus and Belize in the list of beery rogue nations?
I have always wondered why this wasn’t done with the others.
You might be underrating Belize a little bit.
But apparently it is a LOT more work than you’d think to do this. So when we do it, we have to be ready to do it for like 10-20 countries. Then it becomes a question of scarce resources and priorities. But yeah, this will need to be done. We’ll be freeing Belgium, Australia, Italy, Brazil, France and a bunch of others.
Belgium would not exactly be first in line to make a split. Judging by this list there are plenty of other countries where the situation demands it more: http://www.ratebeer.com/forums/year-end-count--of-breweries_269198.htm
Is it more to do with how many beers people drink from each country, rather than number of breweries? |
Originally posted by Oakes
Originally posted by SarkyNorthener
Originally posted by bartlebier
Would this be a good spot to lobby for moving Belgium out from between Belarus and Belize in the list of beery rogue nations?
I have always wondered why this wasn’t done with the others.
You might be underrating Belize a little bit.
But apparently it is a LOT more work than you’d think to do this. So when we do it, we have to be ready to do it for like 10-20 countries. Then it becomes a question of scarce resources and priorities. But yeah, this will need to be done. We’ll be freeing Belgium, Australia, Italy, Brazil, France and a bunch of others.
I know that Belgium is lacking a bit in the innovation department etc. these days but putting us on par with a country with 2 breweries sounds a bit harsh to me.  |
Originally posted by SarkyNorthener
Is it more to do with how many beers people drink from each country, rather than number of breweries?
This is strictly my opinion:
I would say division into subregions are mostly to avoid clutter due to high number of producers.
It bears more significance to me also if:
1) The subregions are well defined and well known.
2) If the geographical areas are vast.
3) If distribution is mostly local.
4) If the different subregions exhibits differences in the characteristics of their rateable products.
Obviously two of these apply for Belgium, whereas the other two does not. |
Originally posted by 3fourths
9. Czech Republic. As much as I love a hoppy Kvasnicove Svetly, the truly superb ones are few and far between, though many are decent to drinkable, but I don’t feel the strong draw to return to Cesky given the prevalence of diacetyl, and the fact that indoor smoking is widely accepted, which is a huge turn-off for non-smoking beer travelers.
The smoking environment in Czech Republic is actually rapidly changing, right now, most of the decent pubs are non-smoking (as compared to 3-4 years ago) and it is supposed to not be allowed at all since 2016. |
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Originally posted by mmahut
Originally posted by 3fourths
9. Czech Republic. As much as I love a hoppy Kvasnicove Svetly, the truly superb ones are few and far between, though many are decent to drinkable, but I don’t feel the strong draw to return to Cesky given the prevalence of diacetyl, and the fact that indoor smoking is widely accepted, which is a huge turn-off for non-smoking beer travelers.
The smoking environment in Czech Republic is actually rapidly changing, right now, most of the decent pubs are non-smoking (as compared to 3-4 years ago) and it is supposed to not be allowed at all since 2016.
The smoking ban was strictly enforced in the UK from day one. Whenever I visited Italy or Spain for example a number of years after the ban it was is if the ban never happened. Never been to the Czech Republic so I am not sure how observed the smoking ban will likely to be. |
Originally posted by SarkyNorthener
Originally posted by mmahut
Originally posted by 3fourths
9. Czech Republic. As much as I love a hoppy Kvasnicove Svetly, the truly superb ones are few and far between, though many are decent to drinkable, but I don’t feel the strong draw to return to Cesky given the prevalence of diacetyl, and the fact that indoor smoking is widely accepted, which is a huge turn-off for non-smoking beer travelers.
The smoking environment in Czech Republic is actually rapidly changing, right now, most of the decent pubs are non-smoking (as compared to 3-4 years ago) and it is supposed to not be allowed at all since 2016.
The smoking ban was strictly enforced in the UK from day one. Whenever I visited Italy or Spain for example a number of years after the ban it was is if the ban never happened. Never been to the Czech Republic so I am not sure how observed the smoking ban will likely to be.
Seems to have gone quite well in Bavaria. Hoping for the same in the CR, since the rampant smoking there is/was one of the main things reducing my excitement about revisiting. That little Koutske pub in Domazlice was utterly miserable back in 2007...doubly sad given the high quality of that beer. And I could say the same about Schlenkerla back in 2001 when I first went there...it was horrific, nothing but smoke. Nowadays it’s a joy (once you get past the people smoking outside, obviously). |
Originally posted by 3fourths
99. Lithuania. DMS everywhere. so you have a lot of low carbonated, dirty-tasting beer with what we westerners consider major flaws (from the more recognizable diacetyl and DMS, which respectively manifest as butter and carrot / cabbage / cement mix off notes, to more strange and gag-inducing qualities such as concord grape jelly, hen house, fried chicken breading and ketchup). I really want to like the Lithuanian farmhouse brewing scene but I fear I’ll never go back.
Ditto on all points, although I think maybe my least favorite aspect was the plethora of worty samples (that were supposedly "finished" but obviously were not). A couple of samples from Latvia showed the same issue, so it does seem to suggest a regional preference for "raw beer". I just can’t imagine ever learning to enjoy wort, DMS, and diacetyl, though. *shrug* |
