Brewer to brewer, Kolsch is indistinguishable

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Erlangernick
beers 5 º places 2 º 00:34 Tue 5/7/2013

Also, the vast bulk of the beer brewed by the 1200(?) breweries in Germany is *intended* to be indistinguishable from each other -- this is a trend that has been going on for years now and is well documented by the media, even with TV shows about it.

 
JK
beers 6249 º places 420 º 05:51 Tue 5/7/2013

I get it now. There is obviously something wrong with my palate and my knowledge of beer is lacking because I found Kolsch rathet flavorless and boring.

 
JulienHuxley
beers 5909 º places 415 º 05:59 Tue 5/7/2013

Originally posted by KyotoLefty
I think it’s a mistake to say that anyone who disagrees with the OP (and others of the same camp) is harassing. I for one haven’t harassed anyone. This kind of OP is provocative, and it was obviously meant to be: a sweeping generalization with which many people were likely to disagree, like "I finally went to Cologne and don’t see what all the fuss is about..." ("Even though so many of you say the kolsch there is so special..." being implied.) That’s fine.

It’s also fine (and to be expected) that many people simply and strongly disagree. Does that mean we’re the experts? Not necessarily. But what I find interesting is this: If you say: "Kolsch is boring," or "I don’t like weizens." There is nothing I can really say, as that is your preference. But if you say "All kolschs taste the same," or "German beers have no distinctive features," then we are talking about a more objective claim. I find kolsch to be not very interesting overall, but have been to Cologne twice and tried several of them there, and when I hear someone saying that they are indistinguishable one from another, I imagine that person must not have been paying much attention.


Up until this post I was getting a little annoyed by how easily old world beer enthusiasts got butt-hurt by a rather inoffensive. I understand the position better now. I guess the frustrating thing is when you’re in the business of promoting a world of beer tradition, and then someone "from the inside" discards it all as being objectively the same, it can be quite annoying.

I, for one, am just getting started on beer travel and can’t wait to return to Europe (planning a trip to Germany right now). Hopefully German beer will live up to the experience I had in Czech Rep.

 
hawthorne00
beers 4065 º places 49 º 06:36 Tue 5/7/2013

Originally posted by JK
I get it now. There is obviously something wrong with my palate and my knowledge of beer is lacking because I found Kolsch rathet flavorless and boring.
No, not much caring for Kölsch is not why. It is your claim in the title of your thread that Brewer to brewer, Kolsch is indistinguishable.

 
FrumptyDumpty
06:36 Tue 5/7/2013

I don’t really care that someone might not like a certain style as I have a couple I am not a giant fan of. What I dislike is broad sweeping generalizations that just don’t hold water, such as all german beer is ordinary.

 
Erlangernick
beers 5 º places 2 º 06:53 Tue 5/7/2013

All German beer is German.

 
JulienHuxley
beers 5909 º places 415 º 07:02 Tue 5/7/2013

Truisms rock ^

 
mike004
07:05 Tue 5/7/2013

I disagree with the OP that the Cologne beers all taste the same. But he’s entitled to his opinion. I reckon you need to drink at least 10 before making a rating decision :)

Maybe this is what happens if you drink too many extreme beers?
Your palate changes and simple, fresh beers just don’t impress you anymore. And you can never go back...

 
JulienHuxley
beers 5909 º places 415 º 07:30 Tue 5/7/2013

Originally posted by mike004
I disagree with the OP that the Cologne beers all taste the same. But he’s entitled to his opinion. I reckon you need to drink at least 10 before making a rating decision :)

Maybe this is what happens if you drink too many extreme beers?
Your palate changes and simple, fresh beers just don’t impress you anymore. And you can never go back...


I disagree, I’m definitely getting tired of extreme beers and liking drinking simple fresh beers more and more as things move on.

 
JK
beers 6249 º places 420 º 08:23 Tue 5/7/2013

Originally posted by mike004
I disagree with the OP that the Cologne beers all taste the same. But he’s entitled to his opinion. I reckon you need to drink at least 10 before making a rating decision :)

Maybe this is what happens if you drink too many extreme beers?
Your palate changes and simple, fresh beers just don’t impress you anymore. And you can never go back...


I love a good Vienna or Czech Pilsner, so I don’t agree with that.