English Pale ale

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chriso
beers 7540 º places 736 º 19:26 Sat 11/4/2017

Originally posted by BlackHaddock
When I first started drinking (Fakenham, Norfolk; 1969) as an under age 17 year old (don't ask what I was doing out in rural Norfolk), all my mates and I would order a half-pint of draught Bitter and a bottle of Pale Ale. The reason being we got more than half a pint of draught in the glass and we thought we were being clever.

I started in 11972 and did exactly the same thing for exactly the same reasons. Except it was bormally Brown & Bitter. I think it was pretty standard practice for impoverished youth. Of course it relied on you having some rapport with the bar staff. And not having metered dispense. I wonder what happened to all those old diaphragm pumps? The other common trick was to have a pint to start with then ask them to "just put a half in there" for subsequent drinks - getting a fresh glass for every drink was not the norm back then.

 
wheresthepath
beers 2829 º places 169 º 03:20 Sun 11/5/2017

In addition to the whole pale ale malarky, there seems to be an increasing tendency for certain users to log UK bitters as amber ales simply because the brewer has said the beer is amber coloured.

For what it's worth, I like the idea of styles and sub-styles (as long as we get plenty of stats!) but suspect that this would be a long way down the list of current development priorities for Joe and co.

I always suspected that Chris was a time lord....

 
minutemat
beers 9272 º places 379 º 03:24 Sun 11/5/2017

Originally posted by ebone1988
Originally posted by harrisoni
Originally posted by ebone1988
In the hierarchy of styles, you'd only have Lager, Ale, and Lambic. All beers are variations of that.


So in fact the yeast is the deciding factor?
Interesting and you aren't the only one with a similar opinion.
Oh and there arent 76 styles of beer. No matter what RB says
I once promised never to contribute to a beer style subject forum thread again but i just cant help myself.


I mean one is top-fermented, one is bottom fermented, and one is open-fermented. I agree with classifying the different styles, some seem ambiguous.


Then you have a hybrid style such as a 'California Common', which uses bottom-fermenting yeast that has adapted to being brewed at an ale temperature, and results in a beer with more in common with a pale or golden ale. In general though, I agree.

 
danlo
beers 5763 º places 300 º 04:02 Sun 11/5/2017

Originally posted by harrisoni
Originally posted by danlo
Originally posted by harrisoni

IPA is also a catch all style that works. Doesn't matter the country, the hops. The same could be done for Pale Ales.


Apart from English IPA which are classed as Premium bitter/ESB on ratebeer, which is a trademark infringement in the UK apparently


Oooh interesting. How would you describe or identify an English IPA?


https://www.craftbeer.com/styles/english-style-india-pale-ale
The English IPA is characterized by stiff English-style hop character (earthy, floral) and increased alcohol content. English yeast lends a fruity flavor and aroma. Different from its American counterpart, this style strikes a balance between malt and hops for a more rounded flavor. 6-14 SRM (Color), 35-63 IBU (Bitterness), 5-7% ABV (Alcohol)

Examples being:
https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/worthingtons-white-shield/286/
https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/feral-english-ipa/492899/

 
nuplastikk
beers 7241 º places 52 º 16:28 Sun 11/5/2017

What is the difference between an Extra Pale Ale and an English Pale Ale?

 
allmyvinyl
beers 12653 º places 18 º 16:55 Sun 11/5/2017

One is extra pale, one has a stiff upper lip.

Originally posted by nuplastikk
What is the difference between an Extra Pale Ale and an English Pale Ale?

 
chriso
beers 7540 º places 736 º 04:29 Mon 11/6/2017

Originally posted by wheresthepath
I always suspected that Chris was a time lord....

Doubly so as I originally typed 1872, then edited it.

 
cgarvieuk
beers 32087 º places 453 º 04:53 Mon 11/6/2017

Originally posted by chriso
Originally posted by wheresthepath
I always suspected that Chris was a time lord....

Doubly so as I originally typed 1872, then edited it.


I thought you were just being very specific

11th September 1972

 
SilkTork
beers 6567 º places 106 º 05:35 Mon 11/6/2017

I agree with everything that's been said here.

Apart from the stuff I disagree with.

 
ebone1988
beers 2500 º places 25 º 06:32 Mon 11/6/2017

Originally posted by harrisoni