Hoppes

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Erlangernick
beers 1 º places 2 º 01:46 Fri 7/20/2012

So I'm down to the last batch or two's worth of fresh Citra and Centennial from my #1 supplier, though I've got a half pound of Palisades from him to play with. Will do a single hop half-IPA with it soon.

And I've done my first single-hop Simcoe in a year or so, and while I like it better than last year's, it still strikes me as the most boring of the latter day (post-Columbus/Zeus) Yankocitrichops. Nice bitterness, but it's just kind of 'there' aromatically, not very citric, more grassy.

Or am I an idiot?

And I've got some more Galaxy, which I thought was OK last year, but like Citra Lite.

I keep coming back to Chinook and Centennial, especially half-half with Citra.

 
FrumptyDumpty
03:17 Fri 7/20/2012

Try dry hopping with Simcoe. Simcoe is hands down my fav hop always and forever.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3438 º places 209 º 07:11 Fri 7/20/2012

Originally posted by FrumptyDumpty
Try dry hopping with Simcoe. Simcoe is hands down my fav hop always and forever.


That is one of the hops that has varied the most over the years, in my experience. I'm actually going to go back to Cascade, which I haven't used in years, for a pale ale soon.

 
ALLOVATE
beers 3048 º places 109 º 07:29 Fri 7/20/2012

It is good to hear of differing hop results. It doesn't always pan out as planned. Interested more in your Simcoe result. I still back Chinook, Amarillo, Willamette and Cascade as choice example of US hops. The nouveau hops are touch and go, which was expected.

 
robrules
places 1 º 08:17 Fri 7/20/2012

Originally posted by Erlangernick
And I've done my first single-hop Simcoe in a year or so, and while I like it better than last year's, it still strikes me as the most boring of the latter day (post-Columbus/Zeus) Yankocitrichops. Nice bitterness, but it's just kind of 'there' aromatically, not very citric, more grassy.


Simcoe is not really citrusy, more mangoe/tropical fruit along with the piney and herbal (some people call catty)aspects. Seems to me that it loses more of its tropical nature each year and pine is becoming the major flavor.

 
Erlangernick
beers 1 º places 2 º 03:21 Sat 7/21/2012

Originally posted by robrules
Originally posted by Erlangernick
And I've done my first single-hop Simcoe in a year or so, and while I like it better than last year's, it still strikes me as the most boring of the latter day (post-Columbus/Zeus) Yankocitrichops. Nice bitterness, but it's just kind of 'there' aromatically, not very citric, more grassy.


Simcoe is not really citrusy, more mangoe/tropical fruit along with the piney and herbal (some people call catty)aspects. Seems to me that it loses more of its tropical nature each year and pine is becoming the major flavor.


Yeah, I'd forgotten that it's not supposed to be so *citric*. It just seems kind of one-dimensional compared to the other new ones. I'll use it more for bittering, I think.

Used the Galaxy yesterday, 2012 harvest, for a 1.033 OG half-IPA, ~6 oz for about 8 gallon boil size. Standard usage: 1 oz at 60 minutes, 1.67 at 15 and 5 minutes and again at 80°C. Oiliest, stickiest clump o' hops I think I've ever laid hands on. Beautifully aromatic too.

 
seymour
beers 2076 º places 50 º 08:33 Mon 8/13/2012

Originally posted by Erlangernick

...to me that it loses more of its tropical nature each year and pine is becoming the major flavor.





This has been my exact experience as well. It sorta begs the question whether their plant trademark/patent protection should be valid if the characteristics aren't stable after just a couple years of propogation...

 
Erlangernick
beers 1 º places 2 º 07:33 Wed 8/22/2012

Just brewed with Palisade for the first time today (1.034 OG half-IPA). Very nice aroma, not as sticky as some others, but still pleasant. 30 gm Warrior for bittering, 5x that quantity in 3 additions at 15 and 5 minutes and whilst chilling, at 77°C.

Will update in 2-3 days when we commence with consumption.

 
Erlangernick
beers 1 º places 2 º 06:59 Sat 8/25/2012

Really like the Palisades -- more subtle than other Oregonian hops, but yet not boring. More later when the beer cleans up a bit.

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