Making your hoppy beers hoppier with less hops

Reads 3757 • Replies 33 • Started Friday, March 3, 2017 3:14:54 PM CT

The forums you're viewing are the static, archived version. You won't be able to post or reply here.
Our new, modern forums are here:
RateBeer Forums

Thread Frozen
 
HornyDevil
14:12 Mon 3/13/2017

Just brewed 6 gallons of this beer this weekend. Will be dry-hopping it with Amarillo, as well.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3437 º places 209 º 14:29 Mon 3/13/2017

Have you tried a yeast like QA23? It sounds like it has a lot of the attributes that you’d want. It’s a pretty resilient strain, too, in my experience (in mead/wine).

 
HornyDevil
14:35 Mon 3/13/2017

Originally posted by NobleSquirrel
Have you tried a yeast like QA23? It sounds like it has a lot of the attributes that you’d want. It’s a pretty resilient strain, too, in my experience (in mead/wine).


It’s OK, but belongs in the "it doesn’t work as well as CY3079" category.

It least for beer, that is.

 
HornyDevil
09:05 Tue 3/14/2017

Should have used a blow-off tube.

 
mkgrenwel
beers 619 º places 117 º 09:52 Tue 3/14/2017

I just want to clarify. You’re talking about increasing hop character via yeast selection/fermentation techniques, not actually reducing hop usage to directly increase hop character, correct?

 
HornyDevil
10:23 Tue 3/14/2017

Originally posted by mkgrenwel
I just want to clarify. You’re talking about increasing hop character via yeast selection/fermentation techniques, not actually reducing hop usage to directly increase hop character, correct?


Yes, but what you mention can be done, as well, through using certain hop combinations.

http://www.barthhaasgroup.com/images/mediacenter/downloads/pdfs/743/hopscience-feb17-bhg-1.pdf

 
HornyDevil
12:19 Fri 3/17/2017

First of two, 4 day, 3 oz., dry hoppings went in this morning. Smelling pretty damn good when I racked it.

 
radarsock
beers 1226 º places 112 º 12:56 Fri 3/17/2017

I know someone in Portsmouth who brews beer he bitters with oak leaves and pine cones. Not even kidding. I never could tell the difference; I always assumed that the hops were the reason it was so mindfully medicinal in its profile. If he hadn’t told me his process for that wonderfully crafted DIPA, I probably wouldn’t have ever guessed that the bitterness in question had come from goddamn trees, of all things.
Really unique and cool.
But on the subject, I’ve brewed a delicious wheat/oat saison - one from last year - that was bittered with using dried lavender (from my garden) and dried chamomile (from my previous work site). It had only been very delicately hopped aromatically and at blame-out. Next time, however, I’ll simply take the hops out of the equation entirely. I’m giddily interested to learn what a hopless saison utilizing lavender and chamomile (as its bittering source) will taste like, what type of beer it will be.
Fascinated by floral, flowery saisons in general.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3437 º places 209 º 14:06 Fri 3/17/2017

Originally posted by HornyDevil
Originally posted by NobleSquirrel
Have you tried a yeast like QA23? It sounds like it has a lot of the attributes that you’d want. It’s a pretty resilient strain, too, in my experience (in mead/wine).


It’s OK, but belongs in the "it doesn’t work as well as CY3079" category.

It least for beer, that is.


Interesting. I could see that making sense. It could be dependent on the particular thiol, yeah?

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3437 º places 209 º 14:09 Fri 3/17/2017

Originally posted by NobleSquirrel
Originally posted by HornyDevil
Originally posted by NobleSquirrel
Have you tried a yeast like QA23? It sounds like it has a lot of the attributes that you’d want. It’s a pretty resilient strain, too, in my experience (in mead/wine).


It’s OK, but belongs in the "it doesn’t work as well as CY3079" category.

It least for beer, that is.


Interesting. I could see that making sense. It could be dependent on the particular thiol, yeah?


Also, have you had any discernible levels of diacetyl as a result? Sounds like that strain is pretty susceptible to it.

Homebrew Shops - A collection of homebrew shops and supply houses submitted by RateBeer readers

Homebrewing Articles - RateBeer Magazine's homebrewing department

Homebrew Recipes - Experiment, share and post your own homebrew recipes

Until we can make beer come out of your monitor...

Beer2Buds
Send Beer Over The Net

Free signup now. Even out a trade, keep good vibes alive, say hi with a beer