Malt choice for black lager

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decaturstevo
beers 6342 º places 200 º 20:14 Mon 10/17/2016

What dark malt can be used to give a black lager its dark color and not overpower the beer?
What dark malt can be used to make a black ipa?
cheerstevo

 
CLevar
places 23 º 20:26 Mon 10/17/2016

For a black lager, a small amount of de-bittered caraffa III. Or sinamar. Either would suffice.

 
decaturstevo
beers 6342 º places 200 º 20:28 Mon 10/17/2016

thanks

 
SpringsLicker
beers 3944 º places 158 º 21:05 Mon 10/17/2016

I agree on the de-bittered. Northern Brewer also lists a de-bittered black malt and de-husked Carafa.

 
SpringsLicker
beers 3944 º places 158 º 21:15 Mon 10/17/2016

Originally posted by SpringsLicker
I agree on the de-bittered. Northern Brewer also lists a de-bittered black malt and de-husked Carafa.

Your base needs to be Pilsner with just a touch of the colored malts. If you want Black Lowenbrau. A bit more for Schwarzbier.

 
Ovalman
beers 2 º 14:36 Tue 10/18/2016

Is there another name for debittered Carafa III? I’ve never heard of it btw.

I bottled this a few weeks ago but I think it’s too roasty/ chocolately for my liking (it may mellow in the bottle), the bitterness may have caused this. It’s the style of beer that got me into brewing so it’s the style I aim to perfect.

2250g Pilsner Malt
675g Caramunich Malt
235g Carafa II

15g Sterling 60m
30g Saaz 15m
250g DME as a starter

1 Pkt Bohemian Lager Yeast

 
SpringsLicker
beers 3944 º places 158 º 15:06 Tue 10/18/2016

Originally posted by Ovalman
Is there another name for debittered Carafa III? I’ve never heard of it


I think debittered and dehusked are interchangeable terms. It seems Weyeremann and Dingemans both produce a malt.

 
Ovalman
beers 2 º 15:16 Tue 10/18/2016

After a Google, I ordered my grains crushed together (I didn’t know otherwise) and everything was mashed for 60 minutes and then sparged. But my recipe said the Carafa II should have been a late addition and added at the sparge stage. Just re-reading the bitterness issue and I think this has caused the problem.

Next time I brew something similar I’ll get the Carafa ordered separate.

 
VsXsV
beers 5000 º places 92 º 15:29 Tue 10/18/2016

The dehusked Weyermann Carafa is called Carafa Special.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3437 º places 209 º 13:33 Wed 10/19/2016

Sinamar is the shit. Use it. I know folks that use midnight wheat for coloring as well and it’s even more neutral than carafa.

 
lithy
beers 2996 º places 156 º 17:37 Wed 10/19/2016

I am a fan of Weyermann Carafa 3 Special as well, crush it but then put it on the top of the grain bed after mashing before recirc and runoff.

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