Why aren’t admins on top of this? Easy - adminning under-represented regions well is hard, and lots of effort, and they’re not paid a penny to do it. Raise a glass to the local admin every time you notice something that’s not messed up.
However, why doesn’t RB display who entered a place (and how many ratings he/she has)? Who is being "protected" by not showing this information. If it’s a good place, then that will garner more respect. If it’s a creche or a library rather than a beer place, then the user’s reputation will rightfully plummet. And T0rin0’s wrong with his "as long as they serve beer" assertion - the actual condition required when adding a place is: "Please only add places that: ... Serve craft beer ..." |
Originally posted by t0rin0
Originally posted by Travlr
Originally posted by t0rin0
The problem is that as long as they serve beer they’re allowed. Feel free to post a list of all the places that don’t meet that criteria.
I think the criteria are that they have to serve craft beer, and be open for business. So a bar that serves only Bud Light would not be allowed
That’s pretty subjective though. If we’re going by the BA guidelines and calling anything non-macro a "craft" beer then the bar with 4 taps: Bud Light, MGD, Shocktop, and Sam Adams Boston Lager would be valid here.
Also, there are many countries (e.g. much of Africa) where there is no local beer at all that would qualify as "craft" by most defintions. Unless there are bars that have the odd (probably commonplace) craft import, those countries are going to be completely devoid of RB-worthy places. I’d imagine, though, that most RB types would be more interested in the local beers, even if they are likely to be mass produced pale lagers, often produced by a subsidiary of AB-InBev-SabMiller. Sometimes you just want to know about the best of a bad bunch. |
Originally posted by FatPhil
Why aren’t admins on top of this? Easy - adminning under-represented regions well is hard, and lots of effort, and they’re not paid a penny to do it. Raise a glass to the local admin every time you notice something that’s not messed up.
Thanks for the admin props.
And good idea about posting the user who entered. We will be doing a lot more of that in the coming months.
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Generally speaking, we try to be a liberal as possible and this liberalness increases as local options decrease.
We do eliminate places that rarely pop up here but I see on apps like Vivino like Burger Kings and post offices.
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That said, if they don’t meet the criteria for inclusion, let an admin know and they will be deleted. |
Originally posted by chriso
Originally posted by t0rin0
Originally posted by Travlr
Originally posted by t0rin0
The problem is that as long as they serve beer they’re allowed. Feel free to post a list of all the places that don’t meet that criteria.
I think the criteria are that they have to serve craft beer, and be open for business. So a bar that serves only Bud Light would not be allowed
That’s pretty subjective though. If we’re going by the BA guidelines and calling anything non-macro a "craft" beer then the bar with 4 taps: Bud Light, MGD, Shocktop, and Sam Adams Boston Lager would be valid here.
Also, there are many countries (e.g. much of Africa) where there is no local beer at all that would qualify as "craft" by most defintions. Unless there are bars that have the odd (probably commonplace) craft import, those countries are going to be completely devoid of RB-worthy places. I’d imagine, though, that most RB types would be more interested in the local beers, even if they are likely to be mass produced pale lagers, often produced by a subsidiary of AB-InBev-SabMiller. Sometimes you just want to know about the best of a bad bunch.
yes, exactly. as joet says, the liberalness of the definition is increased as local options decrease. Africa is a great example. The only craft breweries/brewpubs I know of are in Kenya, Ghana and Ethiopia. Other than that, I think it is worthwhile to enter places that have a large, unusual or complete selection, even if they’re crap adjunct lagers. For instance, I entered a hotel bar in Maputo that had all beers available in Mozambique. I entered a store in Djibouti that had crappy lagers from half a dozen African countries. etc, etc. |
I have seen the odd random place that has nothing to do with beer. It’s odd, but I guess we should take it as a compliment that somebody thinks we are a global yellow pages.
But really, we’re just a craft beer yellow pages. In countries/cities where there is no craft beer, we typically let go any place that has an unusual selection. An example of that would be these places:
http://www.ratebeer.com/places/city/niamey/0/150/
If there’s craft beer, well, there’s craft beer. But please add a rating, that’s all. If all they have is Sam Adams, at least tell people that. |
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Originally posted by Lowenbrau
Apart from this, adding lots of uninteresting places (which happens quite often), there are some user mobs that take care of promoting some lplaces and giving really bad ratings to others. Most of those users do only register and rate the same day, and then just fade away.
Maybe a more strict policy on rating places could be implemented. I´m not talking about having 50 places rated before your rating counts, but beers. Since it is not mandatory to introduce text in a place rating, someone can easyly rate 50 places in few minutes. Nevertheless, rating beers is more time consuming. IMO asking for several hundred beers rated before a user can rate places makes sense. This would show that someone is really interested in beer, and not in some other obscure interests.
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Originally posted by Oakes
If there’s craft beer, well, there’s craft beer. But please add a rating, that’s all. If all they have is Sam Adams, at least tell people that.
A rating with words, that is - ratings with just the numbers are allowed for places. And/or availability information. A listing for place with no information on what it’s like or what it stocks is, in my view, worthless. I often feel the temptation to delete places like that. Especially where it seems it has been added by a one-time visitor, most likely the owner. |
at the very least, require place ratings to have a minimum word count. and maybe if a place has been entered for a certain period of time (a year?) without any reviews at all, then delete it |
