Montana brewpubs battle

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Message jake65 beers 4400 º places 158 º 07:39 Sat 2/16/2013 This sucks. I drive through MT a lot. It would suck to lose the majority of brewpubs because they don’t bottle or can. http://www.washingtonbeerblog.com/montanas-ongoing-beer-battle/
Message lithy beers 2996 º places 156 º 07:56 Sat 2/16/2013 Just a head’s up, I have no idea what is going on with that article, but I would advise anyone reading it to not click any of the links, it seems like every other paragraph is spam with clickable links about medical stuff...
Message budznsudz beers 584 º places 9 º 07:59 Sat 2/16/2013 interesting
Message jake65 beers 4400 º places 158 º 08:00 Sat 2/16/2013 Awwwwww shoot. Works when I tried it... If you’re interested try the other link below or just google the title. http://growlerfills.blogspot.com/2013/01/montana-tavern-association-takes-aim-at.html

Message sthlm beers 790 º places 147 º 08:19 Sat 2/16/2013 Originally posted by lithy Just a head’s up, I have no idea what is going on with that article, but I would advise anyone reading it to not click any of the links, it seems like every other paragraph is spam with clickable links about medical stuff... That was not the case for me at all. Perhaps you have a virus on your computer?
Message lithy beers 2996 º places 156 º 08:26 Sat 2/16/2013 Originally posted by sthlm Originally posted by lithy Just a head’s up, I have no idea what is going on with that article, but I would advise anyone reading it to not click any of the links, it seems like every other paragraph is spam with clickable links about medical stuff... That was not the case for me at all. Perhaps you have a virus on your computer? Hmm, odd, I loaded it through Chrome and have no issues, but on Firefox it shows up with 3 or 4 junk links. Off to run some diagnostics... Anyway, definitely a rough issue for Montana, many states face similar issues because post-Prohibition laws set up many, many oligarchical type markets for alcohol. Sure it is ’unfair’ to them strip the value out of these licenses, but was it really a fair way to set up the market to begin with?
Message beastiefan2k P beers 5012 º places 294 º 13:54 Sat 2/16/2013 Originally posted by lithy Hmm, odd, I loaded it through Chrome and have no issues, but on Firefox it shows up with 3 or 4 junk links. its probably a stupid thing that firefox does. clear your add ons and it should go away.
Message beastiefan2k P beers 5012 º places 294 º 13:56 Sat 2/16/2013 Originally posted by jake65 This sucks. I drive through MT a lot. It would suck to lose the majority of brewpubs because they don’t bottle or can. http://www.washingtonbeerblog.com/montanas-ongoing-beer-battle/ so this is free enterprise? the public has obviously spoken and the old guard wants a return to the way things used to be. doesn’t Missoula have the highest brewery per capita ratio? I feel like a good campaign could change the laws in favor of the breweries.

Message douglas88 P admin beers 13195 º places 398 º 14:12 Sat 2/16/2013 Terrible how money undermines democracy. Utah is like this as well.
Message jake65 beers 4400 º places 158 º 15:40 Sat 2/16/2013 Originally posted by douglas88 Terrible how money undermines democracy. Utah is like this as well. There have been plenty of stories about how oppressive Utah is regarding alcohol. How do the taproom/brewpub laws compare? IMO, one of the most frustrating MT laws is brewpubs that don’t serve food can only be open from 4-8pm and limit customers to three pints. I am assuming there is more to it that just serving food, like requiring a minimum percentage of sales to come from food otherwise more of them would offer a simple menu just so they could expand their hours. If it were me, I’d have a Weber off the back door serving up hot dogs and hamburgers or some other nonsense just to get around the law.
Message douglas88 P admin beers 13195 º places 398 º 13:37 Tue 2/19/2013 Originally posted by jake65 Originally posted by douglas88 Terrible how money undermines democracy. Utah is like this as well. There have been plenty of stories about how oppressive Utah is regarding alcohol. How do the taproom/brewpub laws compare? IMO, one of the most frustrating MT laws is brewpubs that don’t serve food can only be open from 4-8pm and limit customers to three pints. I am assuming there is more to it that just serving food, like requiring a minimum percentage of sales to come from food otherwise more of them would offer a simple menu just so they could expand their hours. If it were me, I’d have a Weber off the back door serving up hot dogs and hamburgers or some other nonsense just to get around the law. In this sense, Utah is more liberal. Brewpubs can serve unlimited amounts, but only 4% or below. In conjunction with food sales, bottles over 4% can be sold. Generally, the state taxes alcohol very highly and is way more intolerant than most Utah citizens, Mormon or not.