NYT on family friendly bars

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drfabulous
beers 8802 º places 199 º 11:25 Sun 8/12/2012

Originally posted by Cletus

Not when the kids are running around the beer garden like it sounds like they’re doing at the place quoted in the article. Adults with beers are not looking out for 2 foot tall kids with no sense of space and no supervision when making their way to the table. I totally get the whole idea of bringing your kids to a place to have some beer as long as they are supervised and not allowed to "frollic" about in the eating area as one of the parents is quoted as saying.


Don’t know about that. That’s not our experience. Since we take our kids out with us and show them this experience, they gain maturity even at their young ages of 5 and 2. They sit with us and eat with us and color activity books or something else at the table. I can’t speak for other people and their kids just as I can’t speak for the a-hole in the bar getting drunk and making a scene either when I’m out with friends and not my kids. That obnoxious drunk seems far worse to me than a couple of kids.

 
legion242
beers 2348 º places 122 º 12:05 Sun 8/12/2012

Originally posted by drfabulous
Originally posted by Cletus

Not when the kids are running around the beer garden like it sounds like they’re doing at the place quoted in the article. Adults with beers are not looking out for 2 foot tall kids with no sense of space and no supervision when making their way to the table. I totally get the whole idea of bringing your kids to a place to have some beer as long as they are supervised and not allowed to "frollic" about in the eating area as one of the parents is quoted as saying.


Don’t know about that. That’s not our experience. Since we take our kids out with us and show them this experience, they gain maturity even at their young ages of 5 and 2. They sit with us and eat with us and color activity books or something else at the table. I can’t speak for other people and their kids just as I can’t speak for the a-hole in the bar getting drunk and making a scene either when I’m out with friends and not my kids. That obnoxious drunk seems far worse to me than a couple of kids.


This. My 8 year old has been going to my local with me since nearly birth and simply sits and reads or colors, etc.

 
Christian
beers 13921 º places 256 º 12:07 Sun 8/12/2012

Originally posted by Cletus
What I like to see is a restaurant area that is kid friendly and a bar area that is adults only.

This sounds like the right way to do it. Parents will probably want to take their kids to a place that isn’t too bar-like, and bar patrons don’t want kids there...

 
HogTownHarry
beers 7084 º places 28 º 13:39 Sun 8/12/2012

Unless it’s mid-afternoon, I don’t want to see kids anywhere I go to enjoy good beer. I don’t complain, I just never go back. I think it’s awesome there are many of you who actually care that your small ones might be holy terrors, but it only takes one head-up-their-arse parent to turn a pleasant pub/bar experience into a screaming chaotic hell. And there is ALWAYS one.

I don’t go back to places where I see the little ecological disasters (children are the least "green" thing on this planet) after around 7pm.

 
jtclockwork
beers 17604 º places 531 º 13:46 Sun 8/12/2012

Originally posted by legion242
Originally posted by drfabulous
Originally posted by Cletus

Not when the kids are running around the beer garden like it sounds like they’re doing at the place quoted in the article. Adults with beers are not looking out for 2 foot tall kids with no sense of space and no supervision when making their way to the table. I totally get the whole idea of bringing your kids to a place to have some beer as long as they are supervised and not allowed to "frollic" about in the eating area as one of the parents is quoted as saying.


Don’t know about that. That’s not our experience. Since we take our kids out with us and show them this experience, they gain maturity even at their young ages of 5 and 2. They sit with us and eat with us and color activity books or something else at the table. I can’t speak for other people and their kids just as I can’t speak for the a-hole in the bar getting drunk and making a scene either when I’m out with friends and not my kids. That obnoxious drunk seems far worse to me than a couple of kids.


This. My 8 year old has been going to my local with me since nearly birth and simply sits and reads or colors, etc.
Unfortunately, not all parents are as good. If I’m at a bar, I’d rather not there be kids running around. Just my personal preference. Ultimately, it’s up to what the establishment wants to do and I’m fine with that.

 
Cletus
beers 6368 º places 233 º 13:42 Mon 8/13/2012

Originally posted by legion242
Originally posted by drfabulous
Originally posted by Cletus

Not when the kids are running around the beer garden like it sounds like they’re doing at the place quoted in the article. Adults with beers are not looking out for 2 foot tall kids with no sense of space and no supervision when making their way to the table. I totally get the whole idea of bringing your kids to a place to have some beer as long as they are supervised and not allowed to "frollic" about in the eating area as one of the parents is quoted as saying.


Don’t know about that. That’s not our experience. Since we take our kids out with us and show them this experience, they gain maturity even at their young ages of 5 and 2. They sit with us and eat with us and color activity books or something else at the table. I can’t speak for other people and their kids just as I can’t speak for the a-hole in the bar getting drunk and making a scene either when I’m out with friends and not my kids. That obnoxious drunk seems far worse to me than a couple of kids.


This. My 8 year old has been going to my local with me since nearly birth and simply sits and reads or colors, etc.


That is normal and acceptable public behavior. So is letting them go and have fun in a play zone if there is one. The last time I went to BAR (a local eatery/brewpub), there were dozens of parents there with their kids. All but one of them were doing what you described. The one that wasn’t was climbing under everyone’s bar stools and running around the place like a lunatic. There were lots of complaints and the parents of that kid laughed it off.

 
502Che
beers 999 º places 47 º 14:18 Mon 8/13/2012

I like to avoid family friendly places. It just adds a whole different vibe, which i dont seek out and actually try to avoid. Maybe one day when i geezer up and my wife pops out a few little monsters i will change my mind and meet you all for a michelob at TGI Fridays.

 
malrubius
beers 3081 º places 32 º 06:42 Tue 8/14/2012

My eight-year-old has been to beer bars everywhere from Brooklyn to California to Belgium and Amsterdam, Munich and Bamberg. She never causes a problem (except a minor accident/injury at Kulminator once), and I always tip extra because I brought a kid, who might make a little mess or something. She always has a Shirley Temple or a Ginger Ale. Her current favorites are Fourth Avenue Pub (free popcorn), Pacific Standard (darts), and Mission Dolores (across from Oaxaca Tacos). She is quite used to hearing the F-bomb and we don’t take her anywhere where/when there are offensive drunks. I like seeing other parents bring their kids, and sometimes they get together and have fun (although they may have had too much fun for the managers at Flying Saucer in Raleigh).

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3439 º places 209 º 07:00 Tue 8/14/2012

Originally posted by drfabulous
Different places for different people. But for those of us who want a place to go in the afternoon or early dinner hour (5pm), don’t want to leave our kids behind, don’t want to tack on another $50 to the day for a sitter, and want to have a beer, it’s nice to have the options as well. We also buy a lot of food, and margins on food are higher than on beer.


That’s the first I’ve head that margins are higher on food than beer... There is a reason a lot of places aren’t brewpubs, which is that margins on food aren’t higher at most places...

 
hopson
beers 635 º places 11 º 07:09 Tue 8/14/2012

This thread interested me as I love my kids and my beer. The big theme running through most of these posts has little to do with the kids- It’s the inappropriate/ridiculous behavior of the parents letting their kids run wild at bars and breweries. I take my kids to family friendly restaurants that serve excellent beer- that’s about as far as I take it- these restaurants serve kid food and are casual environments because that’s where we’re most comfortable. If you are a parent and want to go to a fancier joint, you better have children that are extremely well behaved- otherwise, it’s an unwanted distraction for everyone.