Professional Beer Monger??

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ParkerDaniels
10:04 Wed 4/24/2013

The places are already profitable, they just want to be able to provide something that no one else does or events that no one else has. Creating a small profit margin is their goal while providing a unique experince in their neighborhoods.



In speaking to them, I let them know that under no circumstances would I be a part of raping the public. I might be an a**hole, but I have my limits.

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3438 º places 209 º 10:04 Wed 4/24/2013

Originally posted by foppa78
Originally posted by ParkerDaniels




As for the mark-up, charging astronomical prices and prison raping the general public is not something that I would be a part of and will not work for those that do.


How could a place pay you a salary and cover all of your expenses and NOT have to charge astronomical prices?


My guess is 200% mark up on bottles, which isn't really anything too crazy. $45 for a $15 bottle of beer. Plenty of people would pay that if it was rare. Factoring in the costs associated with sourcing the bottle, they'll probably still make $10+ on each of those bottles. A better question is what sort of structure of pay exists. It wouldn't be hourly, obviously.

 
ParkerDaniels
10:12 Wed 4/24/2013

I'm sure we've all paid and traded some crazy prices and bottles for that one beer we just had to have. I just don't see it as being something you would want to do to your community. That's my opinion and I don't own any of these places, so I guess it's irrelevant.



Yes, the salary was worked out including an expense account. Literally could be the best job I've ever had...fun wise. Travel and beer?? Yeah, I'm into that. Working on the leagal end while we figure out the financials and profitability.

 
ParkerDaniels
10:22 Wed 4/24/2013

Originally posted by ParkerDaniels
Yes, the salary was worked out including an expense account. Literally could be the best job I've ever had...fun wise. Travel and beer?? Yeah, I'm into that. Working on the leagal end while we figure out the financials and profitability.


*legal* end. Jesus what is up with my spelling today

 
ParkerDaniels
10:44 Wed 4/24/2013

Thanks for all your input everyone...really appreciate it!

 
legion242
beers 2348 º places 122 º 11:26 Wed 4/24/2013

If I understand the concept, and I'm not sure that I do, this reeks of plain old bootlegging.

Is an example of what you would be doing something like flying here to Texas for a Saint Arnold Divine release and buying up as much as you can and then driving it back to these stores in Cali?

If so, that is flat-out bootlegging.

 
ParkerDaniels
11:36 Wed 4/24/2013

Originally posted by legion242
If I understand the concept, and I'm not sure that I do, this reeks of plain old bootlegging.

Is an example of what you would be doing something like flying here to Texas for a Saint Arnold Divine release and buying up as much as you can and then driving it back to these stores in Cali?

If so, that is flat-out bootlegging.


No...more like getting into relationships with brewers and distributors for kegs and releases. As the conversation moves forward, we may have found a way to do this that is legal, profitable, and won't be taking away from any local beer drinkers that we engage with. Again, I will not engage in any behavior that hurts the beer community or the local community where these breweries are. I know how the hoarding of product affects the local market negatively. I'm a beer lover, I won't sh*t where I drink.

Thanks for responding...do you think it's a viable job? That's the big question.

 
legion242
beers 2348 º places 122 º 11:43 Wed 4/24/2013

Originally posted by ParkerDaniels
Originally posted by legion242
If I understand the concept, and I'm not sure that I do, this reeks of plain old bootlegging.

Is an example of what you would be doing something like flying here to Texas for a Saint Arnold Divine release and buying up as much as you can and then driving it back to these stores in Cali?

If so, that is flat-out bootlegging.


No...more like getting into relationships with brewers and distributors for kegs and releases. As the conversation moves forward, we may have found a way to do this that is legal, profitable, and won't be taking away from any local beer drinkers that we engage with. Again, I will not engage in any behavior that hurts the beer community or the local community where these breweries are. I know how the hoarding of product affects the local market negatively. I'm a beer lover, I won't sh*t where I drink.

Thanks for responding...do you think it's a viable job? That's the big question.


I'll be perfectly honest, no I don't see how it would be viable.

Are you talking about setting up these "relationships" with only breweries and distros in Cali?

 
ParkerDaniels
11:56 Wed 4/24/2013

Originally posted by legion242
Originally posted by ParkerDaniels
Originally posted by legion242
If I understand the concept, and I'm not sure that I do, this reeks of plain old bootlegging.

Is an example of what you would be doing something like flying here to Texas for a Saint Arnold Divine release and buying up as much as you can and then driving it back to these stores in Cali?

If so, that is flat-out bootlegging.


No...more like getting into relationships with brewers and distributors for kegs and releases. As the conversation moves forward, we may have found a way to do this that is legal, profitable, and won't be taking away from any local beer drinkers that we engage with. Again, I will not engage in any behavior that hurts the beer community or the local community where these breweries are. I know how the hoarding of product affects the local market negatively. I'm a beer lover, I won't sh*t where I drink.

Thanks for responding...do you think it's a viable job? That's the big question.


I'll be perfectly honest, no I don't see how it would be viable.

Are you talking about setting up these "relationships" with only breweries and distros in Cali?


See...I don't see it being financially stable or viable either, and that's where the concern is. Like I said earlier, I really like these guys and don't want them to get into a bind over this venture.

We'd like to set up relationships in multiple states, however, until I get some more information from the ABC and other governing bodies, we can't move forward with that. There's a lot of legal speak and ways in which states differ with their distributorship, etc. A lot to still accomplish before anything moves forward.

 
legion242
beers 2348 º places 122 º 12:00 Wed 4/24/2013

Originally posted by ParkerDaniels
Originally posted by legion242
Originally posted by ParkerDaniels
Originally posted by legion242
If I understand the concept, and I'm not sure that I do, this reeks of plain old bootlegging.

Is an example of what you would be doing something like flying here to Texas for a Saint Arnold Divine release and buying up as much as you can and then driving it back to these stores in Cali?

If so, that is flat-out bootlegging.


No...more like getting into relationships with brewers and distributors for kegs and releases. As the conversation moves forward, we may have found a way to do this that is legal, profitable, and won't be taking away from any local beer drinkers that we engage with. Again, I will not engage in any behavior that hurts the beer community or the local community where these breweries are. I know how the hoarding of product affects the local market negatively. I'm a beer lover, I won't sh*t where I drink.

Thanks for responding...do you think it's a viable job? That's the big question.


I'll be perfectly honest, no I don't see how it would be viable.

Are you talking about setting up these "relationships" with only breweries and distros in Cali?


See...I don't see it being financially stable or viable either, and that's where the concern is. Like I said earlier, I really like these guys and don't want them to get into a bind over this venture.

We'd like to set up relationships in multiple states, however, until I get some more information from the ABC and other governing bodies, we can't move forward with that. There's a lot of legal speak and ways in which states differ with their distributorship, etc. A lot to still accomplish before anything moves forward.



Well, just to use Texas as an example because it is the state whose laws I know the best, this would never work.
Re: Breweries- there is just no way around the 3-tier system
Re: Distros- they are tied to their territories and can't do business outside of those territories.