Say it aint so: Craft beer distributors support Prohibition

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Message joet P admin beers 2900 º places 125 º 16:25 Sat 9/18/2010 SOURCE: Pick Your Poison... (9/18) -- The folks who deliver beer and other beverages to liquor stores have joined the fight against legalizing marijuana in California. On Sept. 7, the California Beer & Beverage Distributors gave $10,000 to a committee opposing Proposition 19, the measure that would change state law to legalize pot and allow it to be taxed and regulated. More... -- The donation was a relatively small amount and many of the brewers/distributors listed below were not aware of the donation. Whatever your personal feelings on marijuana, supporting Proposition 19 is supporting prohibition and this is a direct analog to beer prohibition. Supporting Prop 19 with no other explicit reason than to defend profit is unconscionable. If you’d like to contact the people involved, their names and numbers are provided below. Listed Associate Members with contact information. Bush and Bud Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc. Tel +1 314 577 20 00 Fax +1 314 577 1778 Sam Adams The Boston Beer Company 617.368.5000 DIAGEO-Guinness USA Inc. Private Company (203)359-7100, (203)359-7192 fax, http://www.diageo.com Full Sail Brewing Co Portland: Columbia Distributing Ask for Jeanette (503) 727-3248 G.K. SKAGGS, Inc. Telephone: 949.752.1500 Fax: 949.752.1525 Sales: Sales@gkskaggs.com Heineken USA General Phone: 914.681.4100 tcarraro@heinekenusa.com Hudepohl-Schoenling Brewing Co. Private Company (513)984-6910, (513)984-6888 fax Moosehead USA 303-530-3700 Toll-Free 1-877-466-6673 New Belgium Brewing Company 1-888-NBB-4044 or locally at 970-221-0524 nbb@newbelgium.com. The Pabst Brewing Company Phone: 210-226-0231 / 1-800-935-BEER products@pabst.com Phusion Products LLC Phone/Fax: (888) 402-5247 Email: generalinquiry@drinkfour.com Sierra Nevada Brewing Co info@sierranevada.com Consumer PHONE NUMBERS Main: 530.893.3520 Stone Brewing Co 760.471.4999 email@stonebrew.com
Message JK beers 7296 º places 442 º 18:16 Sat 9/18/2010 Shouldn’t this be in medium? The discussion of illegal drugs seems like it should be in medium.
Message captkeebz 18:18 Sat 9/18/2010 Fantastic! I am in the process of creating a similar list to post around as I read this. Hopefully enough folks will raise hell to get these brewers to reign in their trade group. It is obviously insanely hypocritical that a group who would have been put out of business by prohibition in the 20’s is now eager to put their boot on the neck of the guy next door. Why’d they get involved? I’d also recommend contacting the California Beer & Beverage Distributors. assn@cbbd.com, http://www.cbbd.com/contact.html
Message TheBeerSommelier 18:26 Sat 9/18/2010 Originally posted by captkeebz Why’d they get involved? Why do you think? Because they perceive that any other recreational indulgence will detract from the consumption of their customers’ products. That’s why.

Message darkguardian beers 736 º places 2 º 18:50 Sat 9/18/2010 Stone and New Belgium suprise me, the rest do not. Bigger craft companies even like Sierra Nevada have to maintain a public perception in addition to the very valid point that Matt makes. Definitely its hypocritical. And considering how important pot has become to the economy in California, a crackdown on pot could potentially be devastating to the economy could it not? I have not and never will use any illegal drugs of any kind (except alcohol of course) but I have absolutely nothing against those who do, especially something as inoffensive and even potential helpful as pot. As for the other stuff, well its other people’s business what they want to do with their bodies imo.
Message joet P admin beers 2900 º places 125 º 20:44 Sat 9/18/2010 Originally posted by JK Shouldn’t this be in medium? The discussion of illegal drugs seems like it should be in medium. This is a discussion of beer distributors’ policy.
Message erway beers 1004 º places 41 º 21:40 Sat 9/18/2010 Why are big corporations so willing to indirectly support the drug war in Mexico?
Message Cletus beers 6349 º places 233 º 22:10 Sat 9/18/2010 I find it pathetic that Joet takes up this cause to the level he seems to be taking it up, yet seems to not give a shit about HR 5024 which is much more serious and will have an impact on the world of beer that cannot be undone and will set back beer distribution in the US 40 years; unlike any opposition to some stoner bill that will be shot down by the federal government if it passes anyway.

Message puzzl beers 3258 º places 138 º 22:27 Sat 9/18/2010 Originally posted by darkguardian And considering how important pot has become to the economy in California, a crackdown on pot could potentially be devastating to the economy erm...
Message darkguardian beers 736 º places 2 º 22:38 Sat 9/18/2010 Originally posted by Cletus I find it pathetic that Joet takes up this cause to the level he seems to be taking it up, yet seems to not give a shit about HR 5024 which is much more serious and will have an impact on the world of beer that cannot be undone and will set back beer distribution in the US 40 years; unlike any opposition to some stoner bill that will be shot down by the federal government if it passes anyway. A bit harsh don’t you think considering he posted this in the thread about HR 5024 This is important to us. Doesn’t sound like not givin a shit to me. Jus sayin’ And yes it is important to us. This issue doesn’t really affect me, doesn’t mean I don’t have an opinion about it but HR 5024 has much more impact on me than laws in Cali.
Message TheArrogantBastard places 1 º 12:54 Sun 9/19/2010 Stone is not a part of this. This caught us off guard. We are merely a non-voting Allied Member of this trade group (CA Beer & Beverage Distributors aka CBBD). As such, Stone Brewing does not / cannot participate in the political action decisions of the CBBD. The organization that most directly represents the political interests of the Stone Brewing Co. is the California Small Brewers Association (CSBA), and the CSBA organization does not make a habit of chiming in, one way or the other, on non-beer related political issues. Same for the Stone Brewing Co...we’re not political animals and we prefer to keep it that way. We regret that it has been inferred that Stone is associated with this decision of the CBBD, as quite simply, we are not. -Greg. Stone Brewing Co.