Surgical Beer Reviews

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drowland
beers 9080 º places 286 º 20:49 Wed 7/3/2013

Originally posted by drowland
My personal favorite part is that I’ve drank and rated with a few different people who openly disapprove of people with short ratings... then when I hang out with them they write down a few words and short descriptors, sometimes amongst 100 beers a fest, 2-4 ounces each, and yet somehow those ratings spawn into 10,000 word essays describing every nuance, including the start, middle, sub-middle, ending, mouthfeel, carbonation, head, sub-start, middle head, remaining head, lacing, colors compared to words none of us know, and so much more...

To me, 2 sentences of an on the spot rating is worth way more than someone writing down 10 words at a fest and fabricating it into an essay.


This is something I’ve thought for a long time and always hold back from saying because I know it will piss people off.

 
keanex
beers 1799 º places 63 º 20:55 Wed 7/3/2013

Thanks pinkie ;)

My ratings tend to vary depending on the setting and the beer. If I’m at a bar then my reviews are very short. If I’m at home I try to be descriptive, but many beers are uninspiring. When I drink a beer that is excellent then I’ll be more wordy, poetic in a way. My average review follows a sort of formula though as I feel it allows anyone who does read my reviews to have a consistent feel to them.

I have a beer review blog where I follow a different method. beerpinion.blogspot.com if anyone cares to check it out.

 
drowland
beers 9080 º places 286 º 21:05 Wed 7/3/2013

Also, I don’t like looking at ratings before rating. I want to know what I thought, not others, top raters or not.

Does anyone really buy beer based on other people’s opinions?

I also rate for myself, not others. I know nobody gives a shit what I have to say.

 
DrSilverworm
beers 9672 º places 121 º 23:07 Wed 7/3/2013

Originally posted by drowland
Also, I don’t like looking at ratings before rating. I want to know what I thought, not others, top raters or not.

Does anyone really buy beer based on other people’s opinions?

I also rate for myself, not others. I know nobody gives a shit what I have to say.


Same. The primary reason I rate is because I want to try every beer ever, and I want as an accurate of a record as possible of each one that I try. It’s for that reason I tend to over-describe, whenever I have the chance to. I want to be able to recall the experience exactly from my notes alone, even if I have no prior recollection of tasting the beer

Also, if anyone is studying the profile page of a beer before they attempt to rate, they are cheating themselves... I strongly believe the only way to rate is to rate blind, that’s what the "rate" button in the search results is for

 
pinkie
beers 470 º places 10 º 03:39 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by drowland
My personal favorite part is that I’ve drank and rated with a few different people who openly disapprove of people with short ratings... then when I hang out with them they write down a few words and short descriptors, sometimes amongst 100 beers a fest, 2-4 ounces each, and yet somehow those ratings spawn into 10,000 word essays describing every nuance, including the start, middle, sub-middle, ending, mouthfeel, carbonation, head, sub-start, middle head, remaining head, lacing, colors compared to words none of us know, and so much more...

To me, 2 sentences of an on the spot rating is worth way more than someone writing down 10 words at a fest and fabricating it into an essay.


It is hard to do it off the cuff. I actually practice it. I taste one beer a day and it’s a challenge to keep the time I am speaking under 3 minutes and in two or three sips come up with a good expression the 5 categories. It’s much easier to do it from notes and after I have finished the beer.

It’s also much easier drunk because then the nerves don’t get you so much. =) I am also going to pair the beer with food so I want to observe as much as I can and be able to talk about my beer as well as my dish. Preparation and practice are the biggest part of anything.

The pitfalls of public speaking are repeating yourself. I say the word "literally" at least 4 or 5 times. I mispronounce the name of the brewer and I fumble over the phrase "mineral qualities" and misspeak. I started these as letters to my son who is far away so we could taste beer together. It’s also hard not o get nervous and speak too fast or too loud.

http://youtu.be/5ANtnJrv8Lk

 
italarican
beers 1606 º places 115 º 03:54 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by GT2
For the surgical part, at lot beers are definitely not worth elaborating about. But for beers in the 3.9+ range I would hope in my own ratings that I "rave" about it rather than the occasional cringe worthy rating of:

caramel, malt, hops. 4.1


I definitely agree. Anything above a 3.9 or below a 1.5 is probably going to get a more comprehensive rating for me. The ends of the curve are memorable.

 
hopbomber
beers 88 º places 35 º 04:16 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by drowlandDoes anyone really buy beer based on other people’s opinions?



Yes I do. If I come across a beer or brewery I’m not familiar with ill search for it on this site if it is above 90/100 ill buy it. Funds are tight and I’m not wasting money on shit beer nor do I wish to try every beer ever made as many are quite simply dreadful.

 
italarican
beers 1606 º places 115 º 04:46 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by hopbomber
Originally posted by drowlandDoes anyone really buy beer based on other people’s opinions?



Yes I do. If I come across a beer or brewery I’m not familiar with ill search for it on this site if it is above 90/100 ill buy it. Funds are tight and I’m not wasting money on shit beer nor do I wish to try every beer ever made as many are quite simply dreadful.


I definitely did more so at the start of my beer geekery. I was overwhelmed with all of these unfamiliar beers and breweries at the bottle shop, so I’d take out my phone, see what people I respected thought of the beer, and look at descriptors and ratings to see if a beer sounded like something I’d like to try.

I do this less now. I’m most likely to do it to see ratings of an unfamiliar beer that’s $15+ that looks intriguing.

 
hopbomber
beers 88 º places 35 º 04:56 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by italarican
Originally posted by hopbomber
Originally posted by drowlandDoes anyone really buy beer based on other people’s opinions?



Yes I do. If I come across a beer or brewery I’m not familiar with ill search for it on this site if it is above 90/100 ill buy it. Funds are tight and I’m not wasting money on shit beer nor do I wish to try every beer ever made as many are quite simply dreadful.


I definitely did more so at the start of my beer geekery. I was overwhelmed with all of these unfamiliar beers and breweries at the bottle shop, so I’d take out my phone, see what people I respected thought of the beer, and look at descriptors and ratings to see if a beer sounded like something I’d like to try.

I do this less now. I’m most likely to do it to see ratings of an unfamiliar beer that’s $15+ that looks intriguing.


Oh I’m not at the beginning of it bud, just new to this site I moved to Belgium aged 19 to be nearer to beer. Don’t assume that beer geeks try a craft beer then join this site.

 
drowland
beers 9080 º places 286 º 04:58 Thu 7/4/2013

You silly geese need to think for yourselves and try things! Take a risk!