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drowland
beers 9070 º places 286 º 04:59 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by DrSilverworm
Originally posted by drowland
Also, I don’t like looking at ratings before rating. I want to know what I thought, not others, top raters or not.

Does anyone really buy beer based on other people’s opinions?

I also rate for myself, not others. I know nobody gives a shit what I have to say.


The primary reason I rate is because I want to try every beer ever


Well put.

ISO: Every bottle offered (all bottles offered)

 
italarican
beers 1606 º places 115 º 05:01 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by hopbomber
Originally posted by italarican
Originally posted by hopbomber
Originally posted by drowlandDoes anyone really buy beer based on other people’s opinions?



Yes I do. If I come across a beer or brewery I’m not familiar with ill search for it on this site if it is above 90/100 ill buy it. Funds are tight and I’m not wasting money on shit beer nor do I wish to try every beer ever made as many are quite simply dreadful.


I definitely did more so at the start of my beer geekery. I was overwhelmed with all of these unfamiliar beers and breweries at the bottle shop, so I’d take out my phone, see what people I respected thought of the beer, and look at descriptors and ratings to see if a beer sounded like something I’d like to try.

I do this less now. I’m most likely to do it to see ratings of an unfamiliar beer that’s $15+ that looks intriguing.


Oh I’m not at the beginning of it bud, just new to this site I moved to Belgium aged 19 to be nearer to beer. Don’t assume that beer geeks try a craft beer then join this site.


Ha, I didn’t intend to suggest that. I was just sloppy and quoted the most recent thing related to what I was going to post.

 
Glouglouburp
beers 6103 º places 423 º 05:03 Thu 7/4/2013

As for me I rate beers to impress the chicks. Not sure "impress" is the right word but I do get a reaction with I tell a girl how many beer ratings I have.

 
jercraigs
beers 10886 º places 582 º 05:48 Thu 7/4/2013

I find the length of my ratings varies wildly based on a number of factors, the quality/complexity of the beer, my mood, how much time I have vs. # of ratings I have to enter (My festival ratings are frequently shorter), how social I am being while rating, etc.

I just looked and my top ten ratings are all fairly verbose, some even have a couple or re-rates, for whatever that’s worth.

 
sthlm
beers 790 º places 147 º 07:29 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by drowland
You silly geese need to think for yourselves and try things! Take a risk!

Since I can generally only afford one six pack a week, I’m usually not going to just buy some random mystery beer on a whim without having any idea whether I’ll like it. This is particularly an issue since the best beer store around here refuses to break up six packs with the vast majority of domestic beer. I don’t have internet on my phone, so I actually can’t check ratebeer while I’m buying. Not that I need to for most beers, because I can usually figure out roughly what I’m getting based on the style and brewery. However, for expensive bottles, new breweries, and beer that I really can’t get a read on, I’ll use my phone to take a picture of the bottle and I’ll look it up at home to see what certain raters I’ve come to trust have to say about the beer.

The other time scores can come in handy are if a new beer is getting really high reviews. I almost never seek out rare beers anymore, but if it might be coming to my area, I’ll see what those raters I’ve come to trust have to say about it. Those scores will definitely factor into my decision regarding whether or not to even inquire about the beer at my local store.

 
chriso
beers 21656 º places 720 º 07:47 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by sthlm
Experiments have shown that people can’t tell plonk from grand cru. Now one US winemaker claims that even experts can’t judge wine accurately. What’s the science behind the taste?"

At least some of that comes down to the fact that wine quality (however you judge that) often bears little relation to price. Hype, collectability, scarcity, cost price etc etc all come into play in determining the price to the consumer. In my experience highly regarded and sought after wines often provide extremely poor value for money.

 
humlelala
beers 1375 º places 89 º 11:30 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by pellegjr
I’ve recently wondered if it makes sense to distill and aggregate some of the key words/phrases contained within reviews and give transparency of the top 3 to the community. For example, if the most common three descriptors of say, Pliny the Elder, were "grapefruit", "resin", and "grass", well that information would be very helpful to me in determining if it was a beer I wanted to try.

I believe this function is already available if you click on "shelf tags" in the entry for a given beer.

For example, this is the shelf tags page for Pliny the Elder:

http://www.ratebeer.com/shelftag.asp?beerid=8936&t=1&c=0&NQ=1

 
pellegjr
beers 396 º places 16 º 12:26 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by humlelala
Originally posted by pellegjr
I’ve recently wondered if it makes sense to distill and aggregate some of the key words/phrases contained within reviews and give transparency of the top 3 to the community. For example, if the most common three descriptors of say, Pliny the Elder, were "grapefruit", "resin", and "grass", well that information would be very helpful to me in determining if it was a beer I wanted to try.

I believe this function is already available if you click on "shelf tags" in the entry for a given beer.

For example, this is the shelf tags page for Pliny the Elder:

http://www.ratebeer.com/shelftag.asp?beerid=8936&t=1&c=0&NQ=1


Awesome, thanks!

 
McTapps
beers 6976 º places 194 º 14:10 Thu 7/4/2013

Originally posted by hopbomber
Originally posted by italarican
Originally posted by hopbomber
Originally posted by drowlandDoes anyone really buy beer based on other people’s opinions?



Yes I do. If I come across a beer or brewery I’m not familiar with ill search for it on this site if it is above 90/100 ill buy it. Funds are tight and I’m not wasting money on shit beer nor do I wish to try every beer ever made as many are quite simply dreadful.


I definitely did more so at the start of my beer geekery. I was overwhelmed with all of these unfamiliar beers and breweries at the bottle shop, so I’d take out my phone, see what people I respected thought of the beer, and look at descriptors and ratings to see if a beer sounded like something I’d like to try.

I do this less now. I’m most likely to do it to see ratings of an unfamiliar beer that’s $15+ that looks intriguing.


Oh I’m not at the beginning of it bud, just new to this site I moved to Belgium aged 19 to be nearer to beer. Don’t assume that beer geeks try a craft beer then join this site.


Sorry, bro. Just been for our summer vacation to Rochefort and I must admit, that it is hard to get a Belgian beer with a score lower than 90/100. It is so damn easy to get a beer better than it. But otherwise, in other countries, a beer like that (just thinking of Germany or GB), is hard to find in "normal" bottle shops.

I’m afraid, but I have to quote a buddy of mine : " Belgian beers are overrated."

 
fiulijn
beers 21214 º places 697 º 15:55 Sat 7/6/2013

Originally posted by joet
read robert parker. I also like stuff like this

http://blog.wblakegray.com/2011/03/robert-parkers-tasting-notes.html

where his tasting notes are dissected and made surgical.

really, you can say a lot with a little. and this means also tasting an ounce. The leading authority in wine did this, sometimes 400 times at a single sitting.

there’s nothing wrong with a much more modest approach.

Just have the time to read this now...
Actually, without really reading the first part of the blog, at first impression I was more attracted by the second wine.

The blogger got it wrong because he misinterpreted descriptors that in his book must be negative (embers; but how many times people here used the descriptor manure, and that is not necessarily intended to be bad) and similarities to other good wines (you can find some Orval character in the aroma of a beer, and yet other elements of it make it much worse than real Orval).

He also could not feel that the second analysis has more passion.



In other words, don’t criticize others’ reviews if you don’t have the reading skills