US Craft exporters

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brewtopian
beers 2 º 17:22 Tue 2/12/2013

I think you'll find that the vast majority of American craft beer producers can hardly make enough beer for their home markets much less markets abroad. Craft beer may be expanding but its not quite big enough to really take over the world.

You also have brands like Stone that don't want their beer exported because of the time it takes for beer to make it to market and the impact that has on quality.

 
TimE
beers 6000 º places 343 º 17:51 Tue 2/12/2013

Originally posted by brewtopian
I think you'll find that the vast majority of American craft beer producers can hardly make enough beer for their home markets much less markets abroad. Craft beer may be expanding but its not quite big enough to really take over the world.

You also have brands like Stone that don't want their beer exported because of the time it takes for beer to make it to market and the impact that has on quality.


Then why does Stone export? Global Craft's affiliated firm Nagano Trading handles Stone imports into Japan, both in kegs and bottles. I also thought Stone exports to Europe, but I am not sure about this point.

Though I agree with what you mentioned in general, in that many brands don't even have enough capacity to deal with the local market. Certainly there were other brands that Global Craft/Nagano Trading have dealt with in the past, but those brands stopped exporting to focus on the local market.

 
brewtopian
beers 2 º 18:15 Tue 2/12/2013

I wasn't aware of Stone exports being available. Everything that I've read and in personal conversations with Greg Koch says that Stone is opposed to exporting but that may not be reality.

Because of our online business we get regular request for pallets of Stone and other craft beer from Europe, Asia and South America so its possible that someone is selling these beers illegally to importers and retailers in those markets. We've never attempted to fulfill any of these request so I can't speak to any viability.

 
TimE
beers 6000 º places 343 º 19:29 Tue 2/12/2013

I am sure Stone is sold gray market in many parts of the world, but you should ask Greg directly which countries Stone is exported to clarify this point.

 
konstifik
beers 573 º places 37 º 22:34 Tue 2/12/2013

Stone exports to Sweden and that is directly from Stone. They don't want the hoppy beers to be put on the shelves though, but stuff like the imperial stout, double bastard and vertical epics is coming to our shelves. The hoppy beers are sold to bars, and a few times per year the importer also set up pre-orders (by the crate) for them and then imports the quantity that has been ordered. Thus they are already sold before the get here and won't have to see shelf time.

Other American breweries that are imported to Sweden (through Drikkeriget in Denmark or directly): Lost Abbey/Port Brewing, AleSmith, Napa Smith, Sierra Nevada, Brooklyn, SKA, Oskar Blues, Southern Tier, Westbrook, Stillwater, Sixpoint, Cigar City, Rogue, Hoppin' Frog, Dark Horse, Green Flash, Founders, Weyerbacher, The Bruery, Captain Lawrence, Flying Dog, Uinta, North Coast, Avery, Great Divide, Left Hand, Widmer Brothers, Goose Island, Andersson Valley, Anchor, Lagunitas, Ommegang and Sam Adams. Those are out of the top of my head, I'm sure there are a few more. Of course, imports of a couple of those are limited.

 
TimE
beers 6000 º places 343 º 01:28 Wed 2/13/2013

Wow, that is an amazing list and I was surprised to see a couple names, as those are breweries that have, in the past, indicated they wanted to focus more on the local market. I was also surprised to see Ale Smith, as I heard it was very hard to get their product on keg in So Cal. You guys are pretty damn lucky as it would be hard to one stop shop for all those names in the US.
Tim

 
MannyGoldberg
beers 207 º places 29 º 04:51 Wed 2/13/2013

Originally posted by TimE
Originally posted by MannyGoldberg
Don't Drikkeriget have the European rights sewn up for all the desirable US brewers?

---Posted via Beer Buddy for iPhone


Global Craft exports to Europe. Looking at their line-up, I don't know how you could make such a comment. http://www.globalcraft.com/craft-beer.html

Tim


Maybe Konstifik's last post helps to explain where I'm coming from. Drikkeriget seem to have a lot of very desirable hook-ups.

As for Stone it's regularly on tap in my local (not very high profile) craft pub in south London. They also have loads of bottles including things like the Anniversary IPA. I'm highly sceptical about any claims that they don't export.

 
RobN
08:16 Wed 2/13/2013

To be honest I would quite happily only sell local or at least European products, I believe in fresh and local, and probably will move closer to that.

 
MannyGoldberg
beers 207 º places 29 º 09:13 Wed 2/13/2013

Personally I'd like to see more Italian beers over here. Apart for Brewfist and Birra Del Borgo I don't see much around.

 
RobN
12:35 Wed 2/13/2013

Originally posted by MannyGoldberg
Personally I'd like to see more Italian beers over here. Apart for Brewfist and Birra Del Borgo I don't see much around.

Have you tried Amarcord? The Espresso Porter is awesome in my opinion.