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Crit
beers 5018 º places 159 º 16:21 Tue 5/13/2014

I have had discussions with many of you regarding St Augustine’s and their pricing and serving size. I now have proof... the menu prices are before tax, and the serving size is 414 ml, which is a measly 14 oz.

 
CapFlu
beers 5136 º places 238 º 17:03 Tue 5/13/2014

Aren’t menu prices always before tax?

 
WheatKing
beers 1351 º 18:07 Tue 5/13/2014

...?

 
Ferris
beers 23108 º places 1878 º 18:46 Tue 5/13/2014

Not sure, but Augustine’s has been getting more expensive to the point I now don’t go.

 
fiulijn
beers 28351 º places 745 º 02:42 Wed 5/14/2014

Somebody mentioned how St. Augustine is more expensive than Alibi in another thread too, but I’d like to see some facts, for example on the same beer.
Yes, at St Aug the serving size is 14oz; at Alibi it’s difficult to tell because they use 3 glasses for the "large" as it pleases them...
The sampler is 4x5oz at St. Augustine and 6oz at Alibi, from memory 9.75$ at St. Augustine and 11.25$ at Alibi.

Very expensive in any case!

 
fiulijn
beers 28351 º places 745 º 02:54 Wed 5/14/2014

Originally posted by CapFlu
Aren’t menu prices always before tax?

I will never understand why the consumers’ associations don’t do anything about this.
It’s clearly a legal but vicious practice, to induce people to buy (beer, food, everything) using a low price tag, when in the end you have to pay more than that.

Same as displaying the price of produce in lb.
You can tell me that people are "used to that", but the truth is that 4.99$/lb looks better than 11$/kg...


By the way, I was going to comment positively on 33 Acres and give the Place an extra point because their displayed price already included taxes.
But the last time I got the surprise: the price on the board was still the same, but they asked me for more.
So the girl told me "well, the price of raw materials went up and we had to increase the prices"
"really? and therefore you decided to use the taxes to hide the increase..."

 
Crit
beers 5018 º places 159 º 09:10 Wed 5/14/2014

Most places I go out here in the Surrey slums, the beer prices are after tax. Not at Central City, but places like the One Twenty are after tax.

 
Oakes
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beers 30681 º places 1135 º 12:27 Wed 5/14/2014

Originally posted by fiulijn
Same as displaying the price of produce in lb.
You can tell me that people are "used to that", but the truth is that 4.99$/lb looks better than 11$/kg...


That has pissed me off forever. They always use that excuse - that’s how we’ve always done, it’s what people want, etc.

But they price things in pounds and then give you a metric-only scale. What the hell am I supposed to do with that?

Or I see at the cheese shops it will be $/kg up until a certain point, when it magically changes to $/100g. Consumers in this town are very passive, and just completely put up with this shit.

I mean, CAMRA has had this multi-year campaign about serving sizes and I hardly see any change, even good beer places you have a hard time figuring out what you’re getting.

 
fiulijn
beers 28351 º places 745 º 12:53 Wed 5/14/2014

got another one last night that defied my sanity

I wanted to compare the price of two packages of cherry tomatoes, different prices, visually one is bigger; how do I calculate which one is the best deal?
one package says "8oz/225g"
the other package says "1 dry pint"

 
Oakes
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beers 30681 º places 1135 º 13:41 Wed 5/14/2014

Originally posted by fiulijn
got another one last night that defied my sanity

I wanted to compare the price of two packages of cherry tomatoes, different prices, visually one is bigger; how do I calculate which one is the best deal?
one package says "8oz/225g"
the other package says "1 dry pint"



Nice - weight vs volume. You see this in Russia, too, where at a bar you can order 30g of vodka. Grams?

 
mcberko
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beers 41923 º places 3095 º 14:26 Wed 5/14/2014

If you do an apples-to-apples comparison, St. Augustine’s actually isn’t really far off from Alibi:

14 oz. sleeve at St. Augustine’s: generally $6.25 for locals and $7.95 for imports

14/16/20 oz. glass at Alibi: generally $6.50 for locals and $7.75 for imports

As fiulijn stated, $9.75 for a 4 X 5 oz. sampler at St. Augustine’s vs. $11.25 for a 4 X 6 oz. sampler at Alibi.

The only differences are that Alibi offers 10 oz. pours for $4.25 (locals) and $5.50 (imports), and Alibi offers single 6 oz. pours for $3. And Alibi accepts CAMRA, making it a bit cheaper.