Riggwelter or Old Peculier?

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Message SilkTork P beers 7762 º places 111 º 05:03 Sun 12/24/2006 Which do you prefer? I like them both on cask. But Old Peculier tends to get my vote there due I suppose to a familiar fondness, and because it’s the original. Also, I think the Peculier is sweeter and more inviting. The bottled versions of both are pasteurised and so have less character, but because of the strength and use of dark malts the pasteurising process doesn’t make itself felt - other than a sharper carbonation than is present in the cask versions. I think I prefer the bottled Riggwelter - but I’d like to try them side by side.
Message I.C.suds beers 189 º places 2 º 05:27 Sun 12/24/2006 I am lucky to get the bottled versions of Black Sheep. Holy Grail was at the better shops due to the popularity of Monty Python. I finally found Riggwelter 500 miles away. I bought all three bottles. In a land where Michelob Ultra is considerd premium, I think Black Sheep is fine. Once I retire I am planning a liver destruction tour of the U.K.. Masham will be a stop for the beer,steam engines and sheep.
Message HaStuMiteZen99 beers 1111 º places 27 º 05:31 Sun 12/24/2006 I’m with you. Bottled versions are ok, prefer Riggwelter. Cask versions are both very good, Old Peculiar is better. Actually now that I think about it, Old Peculiar is great on cask, I shall need to find some soon
Message chriso P beers 7540 º places 736 º 05:58 Sun 12/24/2006 This reminds me that I haven’t rated OP from bottle. I’d better put that right. I actually rated Riggwelter higher than OP on cask, though I find these comparisons a bit tricky without a side by side blind tasting. Which is not easy to arrange in a pub.

Message SilkTork P beers 7762 º places 111 º 06:05 Sun 12/24/2006 Originally posted by chris_o I find these comparisons a bit tricky without a side by side blind tasting. Agree. But we have to make do with what we got. I suppose a beer festival like GBBF is a good opportunity to compare well known beers side by side, but we all tend to concentrate on scooping new beers.
Message Sigmund beers 13373 º places 447 º 06:12 Sun 12/24/2006 I like them both - but have had Old Peculier from cask only (in Northern England), and Riggwelter from bottle only. Riggwelter is the only one I have easy access to - at the Cardinal pub (Norway’s best beer bar) here in Stavanger. Other Black Sheep beers are available here too. I haven’t seen any Theakston beers in Norway yet, but that may change soon.
Message chriso P beers 7540 º places 736 º 06:54 Sun 12/24/2006 Originally posted by SilkTork Originally posted by chris_o I find these comparisons a bit tricky without a side by side blind tasting. Agree. But we have to make do with what we got. I suppose a beer festival like GBBF is a good opportunity to compare well known beers side by side, but we all tend to concentrate on scooping new beers. Yes, I must admit that, for most of the old established beers that I’ve tried many times before RateBeer, I’ve just had them again once to make some decent notes then steered clear unless there are no scoops available. And I think my impression of present day Old Peculier may be coloured by the rose-tinted spectacles syndrome. Having spent a good part of the seventies in the North, where the only other stronger beer available on anything like a regular basis was Lees Moonraker, Old Peculier was a real gem. Every time I start to get depressed about the current state of the brewing industry, I just have to remind myself how bad things were back then. Many a Sunday, after a good few hours in a freezing cold, dark wet cave, we would retire to the White Bear in Masham for a few oints of OP round the fire. It really did seem like nectar back then. Present day mundanity struggles to compete with those memories.
Message SilkTork P beers 7762 º places 111 º 10:01 Sun 12/24/2006 Originally posted by chris_o And I think my impression of present day Old Peculier may be coloured by the rose-tinted spectacles syndrome. ... Every time I start to get depressed about the current state of the brewing industry, I just have to remind myself how bad things were back then. ... Present day mundanity struggles to compete with those memories. Yes. There are certain beers which really stood out back then. Perhaps because they were one-eyed beers in the land of the blind. But I do think that Old P is a little more than one-eyed.

Message Kinz beers 3786 º places 66 º 14:12 Sun 12/24/2006 Need to try the Riggwelter. Getting to try Old Peculier on cask was one of the highlights of the 7 or 8 hours I spent in London. I’m one of those old guys who remember when this beer was one of the few bright spots in an otherwise dreary world without a lot of selections. Quite a bit different on cask as opposed to the bottle.
Message DonMagi beers 5592 º places 50 º 16:07 Sun 12/24/2006 Havnt tried riggwelter on cask but id imagine peculier all the way fruitier, though at times i do like the sweetish spiceness of riggwelter out the bottle, reminds me of esb.