In short there is only thing to make it happen. Be gentle and respectfull at both sides and everythig is possible.
Question back seeing some responses.( Fact is this only happened to me in restaurants ,but never happened to me in a bar.)
For the negative prople, do you screw that same staff, when they
* let you and your entourage in on a closed group night.
* decide to open their restaurant for you and your folks. While the group size is below their standards.(Fact is on those nights they just broke even)
* expand your 3 course meal to a 6 course meal. (It’s a quiet evening and the cook wants to try some new idea’s and likes input [laughing] )
* Never limited the menu, incase of availability to group size.
* Gave you several stuff on the house on past occasions.
Fact is it’s a give and take and if done correct and respectfull all parties will benefit, but the key here is being correct on both sides. I also know it can be done wrong, but when done right I think it’s wrong to be a &&&&