"Natural" beer styles?

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joet
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beers 2900 º places 125 º 12:26 Tue 12/16/2014

Revisited yet again... So some ideas about this:

1. Natural styles aren’t marketing terms like almost all beer styles -- they relate to perception

2. A beer can be more or less a part of a natural style

3. It can be in one or many natural styles, but not zero


Are those enough rules?

I might offer these as natural styles and examples...

A. Malty - Abbey ales, porter, East Coast style IPA
B. Hop forward - American pales, IPA, Black IPA
C. Sour - gueze, american sours, Berliner Weisse
D. Fruity - Hefeweizen, lambic, fruit flavored, tropical yeasts

And then some basic modifiers as well

Smoke, salty, strong (>= 7.4%), session (<= 4.6% abv), dark, pale

So even a beginner could look at a beer and click...

Malty and the system would look at the name and abv and add "dark" and "strong"

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The problem we’re trying to solve is a consumer-friendly way to group beer.

This would be a companion to and not a replacement for our existing styles.

 
JoeMcPhee
beers 12092 º places 543 º 12:37 Tue 12/16/2014

If a beer can be "more or less a part of a natural style" - what’s the point? I get the desire to simplify, but at this rate, we might as well resort to calling it all "beer" and just moving along.

 
CLevar
places 23 º 12:49 Tue 12/16/2014

Scroll bars or a flavor wheel sort of thing may be more informative, though requiring more user input

 
joet
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beers 2900 º places 125 º 14:33 Tue 12/16/2014

Originally posted by JoeMcPhee
If a beer can be "more or less a part of a natural style" - what’s the point? I get the desire to simplify, but at this rate, we might as well resort to calling it all "beer" and just moving along.


To explain, 99.999999% of people in the world don’t know or care what a Weizenbock is and they are not informed in the slightest by this word.

It makes sense then to have a companion category for this style that uses understandable language for most people.

 
Homer321
beers 5369 º places 54 º 14:36 Tue 12/16/2014

So, a brett beer that is not malty, hoppy, or fruity would be sour.

 
lithy
beers 2996 º places 156 º 14:51 Tue 12/16/2014

I thought the only Natural beer styles were Ice and Light.

 
77ships
beers 14200 º places 917 º 15:42 Tue 12/16/2014

If you are following majority of beer drinkers. Should they be split in blond & dark?

 
StefanSD
beers 2449 º places 57 º 15:55 Tue 12/16/2014

If you are talking about adding extra words to the shelf talkers that some retailers use, then you are on the right track Joe.

 
Lowenbrau
beers 5865 º places 432 º 19:56 Tue 12/16/2014

Originally posted by joet
To explain, 99.999999% of people in the world don’t know or care what a Weizenbock is and they are not informed in the slightest by this word.


99.999999% of people in the world are not into RB.
It´s ok if we want to add some more accesible info about a beer or style, but proper one should remain.

 
joet
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beers 2900 º places 125 º 22:06 Tue 12/16/2014

Originally posted by StefanSD
If you are talking about adding extra words to the shelf talkers that some retailers use, then you are on the right track Joe.


yep!

 
bhops
beers 433 º places 37 º 22:08 Tue 12/16/2014

I prefer fakies