This is to announce that De Molen Raad & Daad has two separate entries. One for the draught version (has been described as very sour) and the bottled version (less sour). John from De Molen has said that the mix of the beers used differs between the cask en bottled version, which also explains the large differences is sourness. |
Come on, the Raad & Daad on draught clearly has an Acetobacter infection. Full swing sour and lots of ethylacetate in the nose. I doubt it’s a different recipe, or at least not more different than the normal variation, this typically would be the barrel, maybe combined with too warm storage. |
+1. |
i liked the Draught version |
Changed my rating, if things change just merge my rating back – don’t delete it please. |
The color of the two beers is quite different, as put side by side and judged by the people at the Arendsnest as well. And that is almost impossible to get just by an infection. So, it’s not just the sourness that is different and therefore can only be two different beers actually. |
The strange thing is that after the initial shock from the smell, I didn’t mind this beer so much. Perhaps it’s because i’m a Brit and brought up to love everything with vinegar! I won’t be drinking this stuff in pints any time soon though. I’m not sure my health insurance plan would cover it :-) |
This would not be the first time for some infection issues |
Originally posted by GT2 Indeed but this was brutally extreme, even with my 3.8 this is still the lowest rated De Molen beer now out of 280. I rated it mostly for the experience. |
So it was an awful piece of crap that De Mollen shouldnt sell if they cared about the consumer (according to your earlier post), and you gave it a 3.8? |
Hang about is this not just a case of it was supposed to be the same beer but it just happened that the casks used for bottles were ok and the casks they used for draught were goosed? If so I cant see the split. |
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