Mikkeller & Orval

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Erlangernick
beers 6 º places 2 º 03:17 Thu 11/19/2015

So what’s this all about then? It’s a bit deep for my Dutch. What I gather is he’s parodying the Trappist symbol on his Orval clone, and the Trappists are taking legal action against this.

http://belgianbeergeek.be/2015/11/12/the-curious-case-of-orval-vs-mikkeller/

 
3fourths
beers 9492 º places 1576 º 03:22 Thu 11/19/2015

so they’re cloning one of the finest beers in the world (Orval) at one of the dirtiest breweries in the world (de Proef)? Sounds like a joke, but that’s true of most Mikkeller beer.

 
MarcoDL
beers 9594 º places 213 º 03:35 Thu 11/19/2015

Originally posted by Erlangernick
So what’s this all about then? It’s a bit deep for my Dutch. What I gather is he’s parodying the Trappist symbol on his Orval clone, and the Trappists are taking legal action against this.

http://belgianbeergeek.be/2015/11/12/the-curious-case-of-orval-vs-mikkeller/


Yes, the International Trappist Association threatened with legal action, Mikkeller backed down and they will be changing the label (and name) of the beer. What a load of crap, it’s just a parody.

 
bartlebier
beers 4526 º places 177 º 03:40 Thu 11/19/2015

How very un-Cistercian of them to take issue with that.

Maybe Mikkeller now being available side-by-side on the same Delhaize supermarket shelf as Orval since a year or so had something to do with it.

Also for those conversant with Danish pronunciation (the d in "hvad" sounds like a thick, drunk L), the impossible pun of the name is quite clever and cute.

 
HaStuMiteZen99
beers 1111 º places 27 º 04:34 Thu 11/19/2015

Originally posted by 3fourths
so they’re cloning one of the finest beers in the world (Orval) at one of the dirtiest breweries in the world (de Proef)? Sounds like a joke, but that’s true of most Mikkeller beer.


Is De Proef dirty? I had the impression that it was very clean and shiny with a big impressive lab. I’ve never been though.

 
ContemplateBeer
beers 2092 º places 154 º 04:47 Thu 11/19/2015

Originally posted by bartlebier
How very un-Cistercian of them to take issue with that.
Well. That didn’t take long.

 
haukur
beers 2184 º places 32 º 05:11 Thu 11/19/2015

Originally posted by GarethYoung
Originally posted by 3fourths
so they’re cloning one of the finest beers in the world (Orval) at one of the dirtiest breweries in the world (de Proef)? Sounds like a joke, but that’s true of most Mikkeller beer.


Is De Proef dirty? I had the impression that it was very clean and shiny with a big impressive lab. I’ve never been though.


De Proef is really state of the art. Clean, shiny and impressive lab works. So that does not apply. I think "clone" is not the word to be used, I think that beer was simply an ode to the best beer in the world. De Ranke and Green Flash also have their versions of hoppy belgian brett beers.

just my 0.05$

 
Steve_0
beers 3744 º places 142 º 10:24 Thu 11/19/2015

Originally posted by haukur
Green Flash also has their version of hoppy belgian brett beers.


Speaking of Rayon Vert. Is this ever coming back?

 
wchesser
beers 2435 º places 44 º 15:20 Thu 11/19/2015

Originally posted by Steve_0
Originally posted by haukur
Green Flash also has their version of hoppy belgian brett beers.


Speaking of Rayon Vert. Is this ever coming back?


That’s what I wanna know too. Last one I had a few months back was amazing. Also, Prairie and one of the Italian breweries did a collab ’clone’ as an homage too.

 
cheap
beers 8841 º places 328 º 20:10 Thu 11/19/2015

parody/homage - getting a piece of the orval pie

 
jlruthven
beers 612 º places 13 º 22:15 Thu 11/19/2015

Originally posted by Steve_0
Originally posted by haukur
Green Flash also has their version of hoppy belgian brett beers.


Speaking of Rayon Vert. Is this ever coming back?


I’ve heard 2016 release, possibly as part of the Cellar 3 series.