Mikkeller & Orval

Originally posted by 3fourths

Originally posted by tderoeck

Originally posted by ChinoSkillzian
De Proef the brewery may not be dirty, but a hell of a lot of the beer that comes out of there sure is.

I don’t get it. I’m one of the top raters of the Proef and only every had two gushers or so. It’s the most versatile, technically able brewer I know. All styles, often only one batch, no time to tinker with recipes, and practically no brewing errors ever, even if almost every batch is a different recipe...

Myself and a number of other people have found beer that comes out of De Proef faulty. The typical off-note to me is something like concrete and dirty dish rag. Some folks may be less sensitive to these flaws than others, or prefer them. YMMV, of course, but I’ve completely given up on De Proef and anything that is contracted to them.

Originally posted by haukur

Originally posted by 3fourths

Originally posted by tderoeck

Originally posted by ChinoSkillzian
De Proef the brewery may not be dirty, but a hell of a lot of the beer that comes out of there sure is.

I don’t get it. I’m one of the top raters of the Proef and only every had two gushers or so. It’s the most versatile, technically able brewer I know. All styles, often only one batch, no time to tinker with recipes, and practically no brewing errors ever, even if almost every batch is a different recipe...

Myself and a number of other people have found beer that comes out of De Proef faulty. The typical off-note to me is something like concrete and dirty dish rag. Some folks may be less sensitive to these flaws than others, or prefer them. YMMV, of course, but I’ve completely given up on De Proef and anything that is contracted to them.

So, beers like Mikkeller Nelson Sauvignon, To Ol Black Malts & Body Salts and Omnipollo Nebuchadnezzar are faulty and off? I´m ofcourse biased towards Mikkeller but I´m sorry 3fourths, I think you are one of the best and most informed raters on this site, but I think this might be more down to personal bias or simply just European beers brewed at De Proef sitting for far too long in shelves in the states.

I see what you mean Michael. I am getting more and more sensitive to it myself. Often When I drink the better Danish " Proef " beers they are very fresh and properly hopped so its still a "background issue" for me..