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Berliner Weiss with fruit- not a fruit beer?

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cquiroga
beers 371 º places 11 º 17:08 Thu 5/24/2012

Originally posted by Maltzilla
Originally posted by cquiroga
Originally posted by flabeer
OK.
So then... Where do new styles originate?
Divine ordination?
No. Consensus is where new styles get their designation.

Iím just saying itís a bad idea to attached Florida or some geographical connection to that area as a part of a style designation.

And I would also add-- though this may be a semantic quibble-- that I wouldnít say itís how "new styles originate" as much as it is how they ESTABLISH THEMSELVES and EVOLVE over a period of time. To that effect, unless there is some kind of revolutionary new brewing practice (adding fruit to an established classic style I personally would not count as "revolutionary"), Iíd say it takes longer than a couple of years to establish a new style.


Yeah, bad idea to tag a style to a geographical destination . . . other than Berlin?

Not a bad idea in and of itself, but a bad one in this particular case (and in the "Cascadian Dark Ale" case, btw). Berliner Weisse is a style that has existed for hundreds of years, and the world was a very different place back then, in ways that perhaps didnít make you sound quite as ridiculous for claiming a regional style such as this.

 
Maltzilla
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beers 38 º 17:26 Thu 5/24/2012

Yeah, I know. Prolly a similarly ridiculous thing happened to the poor guy from . . . say . .. Hamburg that came up with a light wheat beer with a mild, lactic, tart finish (circa 1808?) who shared his beer with some dude from Berlin that was passing by. Who then brewed it back home, started pouring woodruff syrup in it and told all his buddies it was a Berliner Weiss.
Just being facetious, but my general point being that these things are not set in stone. And it seems like when/wherever you develop critical mass, thats what gets the name tag. Not good or bad, it just is. And Iím sure people who may have experimented with something similar before will feel like their toes got stepped on. what can ya do? For one, I think the style is somewhat different from the traditional Berliner. Enough to make for a separate style? Weíll find out soon, Iím sure. Should it be called Florida Weisse? Who cares.

 
Sean9689
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beers 285 º places 12 º 21:10 Thu 5/24/2012

Everyone...shut up...you too Diego...

 
FL_homer
beers 1 º places 1 º 04:24 Fri 5/25/2012

Originally posted by Sean9689
Everyone...shut up...you too Diego...
So, what you are really saying is "Chicago Weisse"?

 
northernbrews
beers 25 º places 14 º 05:34 Fri 5/25/2012

I could care less what style these are put in as long as more and more are made, some put in cans, and some make their way up to MI!!

 
ContemplateBeer
beers 1777 º places 137 º 06:08 Fri 5/25/2012

Originally posted by northernbrews
I could care less what style these are put in as long as more and more are made, some put in cans, and some make their way up to MI!!
*Couldnít* care less; sorry- itís a pet peeve.

 
gunhaver
beers 1030 º places 13 º 06:17 Fri 5/25/2012

Originally posted by Ryan82SM
Originally posted by northernbrews
I could care less what style these are put in as long as more and more are made, some put in cans, and some make their way up to MI!!
*Couldnít* care less; sorry- itís a pet peeve.


they both mean the same thing

 
CanIHave4Beers
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beers 3584 º places 74 º 06:18 Fri 5/25/2012

 
NobleSquirrel
beers 3438 º places 209 º 06:42 Fri 5/25/2012

nb4?

 
FL_homer
beers 1 º places 1 º 07:49 Fri 5/25/2012

Originally posted by gunhaver
Originally posted by Ryan82SM
Originally posted by northernbrews
I could care less what style these are put in as long as more and more are made, some put in cans, and some make their way up to MI!!
*Couldnít* care less; sorry- itís a pet peeve.


they both mean the same thing
not really, literally that is.