Originally posted by Erlangernick Have to confess I quite like them - the main reason I hardly ever use the two I have is the damn things are too tall for our dishwasher. Sometimes idiot designers forget the simplest things... |
Originally posted by bartlebier I have to disagree with that. I’ve had some spectacular stouts and IPAs on tap at Heidenpeters in the Markthalle. When they’re fresh and on tap, they’re the real deal, although I can’t say that the same always applies to the bottled versions. In my experience, some of the specials are quite good whereas some are a bit off-balance but still enjoyable. |
Originally posted by davidtjm Agree with the stuff on tap, the same goes for Vagabund: very decent and serving an obvious purpose at the source. Once German craft breweries start bottling though, alot is lost: the only exception so far in my experience has been Kehrwieder, but theirs are among the consistently expensive one-offs, setting a precedent for IPAs of €2,99 instead of a maximum 2,50 as was still the standard last year. It just doesn’t make sense, as you can get decent IPAs in the US near the source for about €1,50/bottle, or $10-12/6pack: you’d expect a German IPA brewed with (mainly) locally sourced hops like Kehrwieder Saphir would translate some of that stay local ethic in a less exotic price tag now and then. I think they are mainly trying to earn themselves respect for their brands, aka "Wertigkeit erzeugen", with the results that there now is that desorienting €2/bottle chasm between a world class, whole-cone local Pils like Elzacher Löwenpils and even my more local craft options. Funny also how "first generation De craft" Hopfenstopfer’s €1,45 Citra and Incredible PA is a lonely exception, his early adopter-recipes now already seeming a bit outdated, his labels remaining almost defiantly low-key and homebrewy. |
Good call on Hopfenstopfer, first generation and all that. Met the lad, and was surprised he’s not been to the US. But I can’t really stand his beers, because of the way too fruity yeast and the sedimentation. And he says he’s contractually oblidged to use that yeast. |
Thanks for the up-date on the Berlin beer scene: I am back in the city over ’Green Week’ but will be too busy to meet anybody. I love ’Green Week’, eating and drinking around the World. I try to visit every two years. |
I will also be back in the city, but probably only for a day or a day and a half, to join Sebastian Sauer at an event at Castle Pub on 6 Feb. We may do a pub crawl as well. Details to follow! |
Btw the Brewbaker Jahrgangsweisse 2015 (75cL, bb2035 )is pretty tasty, lots of wheat flavour, medium tart. Only apparently easier to get hold of in Braustelle-operated stores in Köln than in Berlin... |
It would be nice to see a more lively German forum and maybe recruit some more active DE-based RBians to keep up with the booming scene in Berlin, HH and München. |
Try "Foerster’s Feine Biere" in Steglitz. Very nice selection of TRADITIONAL german beers (e.g. Fiege Pils vom Fass, Schönramer Pils, Uerige, Schumacher and so on), smaller selection of mostly evitable "craft" beers. Very friendly staff, they do know a lot about their beers. Higly recommended, if You want to enjoy Your pivo, not if You are craving for new ticks..... |
Originally posted by pivnizub My favorite place in town, and I can walk there. If anyone else gets there and wants to meet up, drop me a line and I’ll always try. |
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