California’s Caffeinated Beer Ban Signed Into Law

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Message CharmCityCrab beers 244 º 10:45 Tue 8/2/2011 Takes effect January 1. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/02/california-caffeinated-beer-ban_n_916192.html Sounds like it includes coffee beers and the like (with natural sources of caffeine rather than artificially added caffeine), based on some of the examples it gives in the article, though the article doesn’t explicitly say that it does.
Message Savvy1982 beers 1706 º places 70 º 10:53 Tue 8/2/2011 What a bunch of nonsensical, well-intentioned garbage. Because 4 Loko isn’t going to switch to Guarana or some other "stay awake" ingredient for the California market. Then again, nothing says that Speedway etc. couldn’t be made with decaffienated coffee.
Message DaSilky1 beers 2607 º places 66 º 11:01 Tue 8/2/2011 Someone needs to violate that ban and challenge the shit out of it. Peter Zien used to be a lawyer, so I nominate Alesmith.
Message Phischy beers 1 º places 57 º 11:02 Tue 8/2/2011 Speedway and Victory-at-Sea. Damn. Better start stocking up.

Message daknole beers 11050 º places 464 º 11:03 Tue 8/2/2011 No more speedway in CA? Is this for real?
Message WesKBob beers 563 º places 20 º 11:06 Tue 8/2/2011 Wow, whoever wrote this is one really terrible reporter. Didn’t even bother to read what the bill says. Under this new law, coffee beers are still good. The early version of the bill could have been construed to include those that used coffee, chocolate, etc. But it was amended during the process to apply only to "Beer to which caffeine has been directly added as a separate ingredient." FWIW, here’s a link to the text of the new law. Everyone can relax. Coffee stouts are still OK.
Message DietPepsican P beers 1592 º places 63 º 11:07 Tue 8/2/2011 Lame. Bring back caffeined four loko.
Message joet P admin beers 2900 º places 125 º 11:34 Tue 8/2/2011 yikes

Message joet P admin beers 2900 º places 125 º 11:46 Tue 8/2/2011 Originally posted by WesKBob Wow, whoever wrote this is one really terrible reporter. Didn’t even bother to read what the bill says. Under this new law, coffee beers are still good. The early version of the bill could have been construed to include those that used coffee, chocolate, etc. But it was amended during the process to apply only to "Beer to which caffeine has been directly added as a separate ingredient." FWIW, here’s a link to the text of the new law. Everyone can relax. Coffee stouts are still OK. really? To me that reads as Speedway Stout for instance being proscribed by this bill for adding caffeine as a separate ingredient in the form of espresso. If the language were to be unambiguous, it should have read "alcoholic beverages to which caffeine in a purified form has been added". "A separate ingredient" can still mean coffee, cocoa, etc. to any lawyer worth his salt. Can you imagine if the same interpretation were allowed for the active agent in marijuana? "Well hey, we didn’t add THC as a separate ingredient, we just added cannabis and the THC got there incidentally." What if MSG were outlawed? "Well we just added autolyzed yeast as a separate ingredient. The MSG got there incidentally." Something tells me this may fly as optimists suggest.
Message NobleSquirrel beers 3437 º places 209 º 12:33 Tue 8/2/2011 Am I the only one annoyed that they are referring to Four Loko as beer?
Message NobleSquirrel beers 3437 º places 209 º 12:33 Tue 8/2/2011 Also, the article has been "corrected."