Florida Weisse my a**! Oregon Weisse!

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Message Oakes P admin beers 30677 º places 1135 º 09:46 Fri 5/15/2015 Sour Wheat is a more accurate way of describing it. It can’t be American revived (again, check the history, it’s not) and Berliner-style anyway. Most have nothing to do with Berlin, which is precisely why so many people get their knickers in a knot. It’s just a name people use. What does that name mean? Sour Wheat. No need to overcomplicate things.
Message DietPepsican P beers 1592 º places 63 º 09:56 Fri 5/15/2015
Message Oakes P admin beers 30677 º places 1135 º 10:05 Fri 5/15/2015 Originally posted by Theydon_Bois Originally posted by Marduk Originally posted by joet berliner is actually an american-revived style like IPA and porter Care to elaborate that porter part? We’ve had many cask porters in the UK throughout my drinking career and whilst there is now way more beer choice available in the UK compared to 20 years ago, I’d say that the amount of porters on the market has not changed exponentially. The basic story - which isn’t really complete - is that Guinness Porter was the last in the UK, dying out in 1974 in Belfast. Anchor Porter was introduced in 1972, and became the model for porters thereafter. (We can save the porter vs. stout shenanigans for some other day - we’re just talking about the name porter to denote a dark ale). The story isn’t complete because porter still existed in the US (Stegmaier & Yuengling) and Canada (Champlain, Labatt). The Canadian ones lasted until the 90s and Yuengling is still going. But most porter today over here is based on what Anchor did. That is my opinion, based on what these five respective porters taste(d) like. The other incomplete part of the narrative is that porter was being revived in the UK as early as 1978, according to Martyn Cornell. But it was gone for four years, and it was only brewed in North America during those years. So the indignation from the other side of the water is definitely overblown here. Porter would obviously have been revived anyway, without Anchor. But Porter was a fringe drink for quite a few years in the UK, while at the same time was a staple of almost every young brewing company in the US and Canada in the early 80s, and was produced that entire time by some very prominent brewers as well.

Message MacBoost beers 2074 º places 37 º 10:14 Fri 5/15/2015 Can we split Berliners into 2 categories: fruited and unfruited? Thanks.
Message Sarlacc83 beers 2662 º places 111 º 23:22 Fri 5/15/2015 To be fair, most of those should probably be labeled Sour/Wild or Fruit Beer. I’m only like 1/3rd joking.
Message Reid beers 3533 º places 95 º 23:47 Fri 5/15/2015 Originally posted by Oakes Originally posted by Theydon_Bois Originally posted by Marduk Originally posted by joet berliner is actually an american-revived style like IPA and porter Care to elaborate that porter part? We’ve had many cask porters in the UK throughout my drinking career and whilst there is now way more beer choice available in the UK compared to 20 years ago, I’d say that the amount of porters on the market has not changed exponentially. The basic story - which isn’t really complete - is that Guinness Porter was the last in the UK, dying out in 1974 in Belfast. Anchor Porter was introduced in 1972, and became the model for porters thereafter. (We can save the porter vs. stout shenanigans for some other day - we’re just talking about the name porter to denote a dark ale). The story isn’t complete because porter still existed in the US (Stegmaier & Yuengling) and Canada (Champlain, Labatt). The Canadian ones lasted until the 90s and Yuengling is still going. But most porter today over here is based on what Anchor did. That is my opinion, based on what these five respective porters taste(d) like. The other incomplete part of the narrative is that porter was being revived in the UK as early as 1978, according to Martyn Cornell. But it was gone for four years, and it was only brewed in North America during those years. So the indignation from the other side of the water is definitely overblown here. Porter would obviously have been revived anyway, without Anchor. But Porter was a fringe drink for quite a few years in the UK, while at the same time was a staple of almost every young brewing company in the US and Canada in the early 80s, and was produced that entire time by some very prominent brewers as well. Michael Jackson says that the lower gravity porters became Dark Milds ( those also almost disappeared).
Message blipp beers 14843 º places 219 º 07:56 Sat 5/16/2015 Originally posted by joeneugs De Garde has NINE of the top 12 berliner weisse in the world. Talk about dominance! How did we make it three pages without any homering allegations?

Message MacBoost beers 2074 º places 37 º 08:00 Sat 5/16/2015 Because most of the ratings are not from Oregon. But my assertion still stands that there should be fruited and unfruited Berliner Weisse categories.
Message suprchunk beers 2996 º places 147 º 08:31 Sat 5/16/2015 Originally posted by Oakes Sour Wheat. No need to overcomplicate things. Today I learned that Berliner is literally translated to "sour".
Message crossovert beers 17165 º places 150 º 10:26 Sat 5/16/2015 If only they had decent packaging and sold it in 10$ 6 packs... Berliner weisse should cheap and plentiful, its a refreshing style that you want to guzzle lots of.