Originally posted by Gazza OK, I get ya now. So it’s darker crystal malts that you find objective. 130EBC crystal is what Sierra Nevada uses in their pale ale and Celebration from what I’ve been told (but we’d call it 60L here). Seems like caramalt is what UK maltsters call their pale crystal/caramel which I think are the only ones that work well in IPA at least. We use Simpsons, which is about 60-70 EBC, so still darker than Fawcetts but half the color of the darker stuff. Bear Republic and Stone are two west coast brewers that use caramel malts in the 25EBC range in their IPAs to good effect as well. |
I may have a wee taste out of the fermenter this evening. It’ll be interesting to see what affect the crystal has made. |
My view of Citra is that it has a bigger impact when using by itself for aroma/flavor than with other varieties. A small % of something else like centennial or chinook along with a large % of citra is ok too. But whenever I use them in more equal proportions with other hops, citra seems to get jealous and kills all the hop character turning it into a gentle melon flavor. YMMV. |
Well it’s hoppy. Quite bitter on the finish. Yes some toffee sweetness, but some biscuit I think is going to come through. I plan a 2 week fermentation/secondary tank so it should give it time to sort itself out. Mostly lime is the fruit flavour that comes through most. Anyway if it’s rubbish at least I’ll know never to use crystal again. |
There are many IPA drinkers who don’t want any Crystal in their IPA. However, Crystal is used in plenty of IPAs and PAs that you probably like. You might have used too much of it this time around, unless you like the result. |
So the proof of the pudding is in the eating, or in this case the proof of the beer is in drinking the damn thing. |
Originally posted by harrisoni |
I bittered for the first time with UK Phoenix, pleased with the results so far. |
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