Hilarious journal article on "bullshit" in wine ratings

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Message GT P beers 10001 º places 672 º 22:17 Mon 7/9/2012 Enjoy this was just assigned reading to me at Hopkins
Message Rciesla beers 5497 º places 3 º 22:39 Mon 7/9/2012 What do these descriptions tell us? Not counting color, and not being two fussy about how we count the attributes, the fi rst description has 20, the second 8 and the last 15 taste attributes. Consider the Yquem. The eight fl avors are honey, raisin, jam, quince, fi g, hazelnut, orange and mandarin. The last two of these “fi ll the mouth;” hence they are likely to provide powerful taste sensations. We have only a hint of honey, raisin and jam and the quince, fi g and hazelnut have only subtly aromas. Are we being told that these six subtle aromas that are only hinted at are not drowned out by the powerful orange and mandarin fl avors? This is bullshit of the first order. Love this.
Message Rciesla beers 5497 º places 3 º 22:42 Mon 7/9/2012 Then again, maybe one flavor like fig the person associated with other fruits so whenever they mention fig for example they always note attribute X,Y,Z and so forth. Thats more then likely the case, i’m sure we are all guilty of this to some extent. And if you don’t agree feel free to call me out on my Bullshit.
Message GT P beers 10001 º places 672 º 22:50 Mon 7/9/2012 Château L’Ordure Pomerol, 2004. Fine minerality, dried apricots and cedar characterize this sage-laden wine bursting with black fruit and toasty oak. The inky wine supported by dusty yet silky tannins surprises with its hint of orange overlaid on crushed rock and is redolent with re? ned fruit, smoked game, hot ? g and graphite.

Message MicroGrog P beers 3249 º places 165 º 23:08 Mon 7/9/2012 Spicy earth
Message steview beers 1037 º places 21 º 23:31 Mon 7/9/2012 I have that tiny bullshit book, On Bullshit. I don’t know where I put it. It’s got that geeky humor that’ll satisfy you if you’ve been involved in the subject matter. But otherwise, I thought it sucked. For the book On Bullshit, it’s the subject of philosophy Anyway, the rip on wine (beer) ratings was funny!
Message erickok beers 6033 º places 274 º 00:01 Tue 7/10/2012 If anything, this confirms we need a Journal of Beer Economics. I will read that.
Message b3shine P beers 12189 º places 372 º 03:58 Tue 7/10/2012 Originally posted by steview I have that tiny bullshit book, On Bullshit. I don’t know where I put it. It’s got that geeky humor that’ll satisfy you if you’ve been involved in the subject matter. But otherwise, I thought it sucked. For the book On Bullshit, it’s the subject of philosophy Anyway, the rip on wine (beer) ratings was funny! We had to read On Bullshit for my PhD Quantitative Methods class, and actually did a whole assignment about measuring bullshit (there was a retort to the book and then Frankfurt responded to the retort). I thought it was pretty interesting, and it made me think twice and start verifying information on my own when someone says something I’m not sure of. Not that I needed a reason to be anymore cynical, but the fact is, most people are bullshitters - whether they mean to be or not. FYI, here’s the link to the book. http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html

Message Alen places 1 º 23:23 Thu 7/12/2012 This article made me laugh. But let’s face it, that same bullshit exists even on the beer ratings and descriptions here. I don’t know how someone finds 10 types of fruits in an IPA description.
Message DYCSoccer17 beers 3746 º places 344 º 00:19 Fri 7/13/2012 Some ratings on this site read like horoscopes. List enough shit, and you’re bound to be correct on a few of them.
Message BBB63 beers 6567 º places 146 º 07:44 Fri 7/13/2012 Originally posted by Alen This article made me laugh. But let’s face it, that same bullshit exists even on the beer ratings and descriptions here. I don’t know how someone finds 10 types of fruits in an IPA description. well depends on the hops used and some esters come about as the beer warms while other fade to the background. 10 is a tall order for any beer but completely plausible.