All Cantillon & 3 Fonteinen pulled from Ebay

Originally posted by Alen
Wait a f-ing minute, if you guys are so opposed to the whole eBay idea and people profiting, then why were only some of the very top high auctioning breweries taken off eBay? Nobody bothered to bitch and report about bottles that only sell for maybe 10% higher than face value. Can it be a coincidence that the targets were beers that usually fetch high sums of $ on eBay? If you’re so against people profiting on eBay sales, then be consistent and report everything, even beers that sell for close to face value. This is proof that it’s not the IDEA of selling beer on eBay that pisses you off, but the beers (therefore the listings) that make the most bang on eBay.
I bet you anything if blabaer was selling for $30 on eBay, nobody would m
ind, and even the crybabies would rush and buy it.

Ah truth surfaces! Faux moral outrage versus plain old jealously at some peoples means to pay inflated prices. Too much of the latter and former I suspect!

Originally posted by miketd

Originally posted by kryptic

Originally posted by Forgetfu

Prior to 4 years ago:
- We did not have the bruery reserve society, crooked stave cellar reserve, etc.
- Very few bottles of beer sold for more than $100 (020202 and Sam Adams Millennium are the only 2 i can think of...both of which i bought on ebay for a fraction of what they are today).
- Beatification and Cantillon were shelf beers
- Limited releases were attended by locals, sold out in a day or two, and people in other parts of the country didn’t know to care.
- I was excited because someone on a trip and came back with a bottle of Wisconsin Red which was a total novelty.

So, as an old timer, tell me which of those statements above aren’t true?

I don’t consider myself an old-timer, but I’ll hit a couple points...

Beatification was never an off the shelf beer here, or anywhere other than a handful of places in Cali and perhaps Co. It was always tought to obtain unless you had "equally rare" prper ammo, etc.

Beatification was an off the shelf beer in the sense you could order it online from liquor stores in NorCal. I had cases of it at one point.

The beer scene has changed, without question. I’ve only been on these sites since 05 and I know for a fact it’s a different set of rules now.

When Dark Lord was first bottled in 2004, the day it was released, there were a few people hanging out at the brewery and enjoying the beers. The early Alesmith limited releases were similar from what I understand. As recently as the first Cuvee de Castleton release, you could walk into Captain Lawrence and buy 12 750s of the beer a week later without a problem. In one of my early trades here, eyedrinkale asked me for some limited releases from Magic Hat and some basic locals. I don’t remember what I was getting in return, but I do remember that he sent me Dark Lord and a BA Alesmith as bonus beers. Things have changed for sure.

FT magic hat 12 shipper ISO BA speedway :)

Originally posted by madmitch76

Originally posted by Alen
Wait a f-ing minute, if you guys are so opposed to the whole eBay idea and people profiting, then why were only some of the very top high auctioning breweries taken off eBay? Nobody bothered to bitch and report about bottles that only sell for maybe 10% higher than face value. Can it be a coincidence that the targets were beers that usually fetch high sums of $ on eBay? If you’re so against people profiting on eBay sales, then be consistent and report everything, even beers that sell for close to face value. This is proof that it’s not the IDEA of selling beer on eBay that pisses you off, but the beers (therefore the listings) that make the most bang on eBay.
I bet you anything if blabaer was selling for $30 on eBay, nobody would m
ind, and even the crybabies would rush and buy it.

Ah truth surfaces! Faux moral outrage versus plain old jealously at some peoples means to pay inflated prices. Too much of the latter and former I suspect!

I think he hit the nail on the head, if the beers (blaeber, etc) everyone wants cost $25 instead of $250 on eBay everyone would be crying that they shut down sales. Some people have time to go to releases, and some people have money to buy the beers on eBay.

Everyone would be a lot better of if they invested more time in their business and less in the business of others. I don’t think release lines are getting any shorter.

WOOOHHHOOOOO over 30 pages! Keep it up guys, this is fun!

This may have been stated already previously but I have not been
Paying attention to this thread: I was under the impression that ALL beers have been removed from eBay as in no more of the bs statement that the collectible bottles are for
Sale and that whatever happens to be inside is not really whats for sale or however ita properly phrased. I feel like getting rid of all beer sales on eBay is
The only way to get rid of the eBay problem and give more access to consumers want to buy a
Product so they can drink it. I guess there always ways of getting around eBay and I’m sure some people are already in the process of developing their own "beer auction
Site" but I can see the legalities being very sticky.

Originally posted by TURDFERGUSON
This may have been stated already previously but I have not been
Paying attention to this thread: I was under the impression that ALL beers have been removed from eBay as in no more of the bs statement that the collectible bottles are for
Sale and that whatever happens to be inside is not really whats for sale or however ita properly phrased. I feel like getting rid of all beer sales on eBay is
The only way to get rid of the eBay problem and give more access to consumers want to buy a
Product so they can drink it. I guess there always ways of getting around eBay and I’m sure some people are already in the process of developing their own "beer auction
Site" but I can see the legalities being very sticky.

No, just from a couple breweries, many of which are back up now.

Originally posted by TURDFERGUSON
I feel like getting rid of all beer sales on eBay is
The only way to get rid of the eBay problem and give more access to consumers want to buy a
Product so they can drink it.

So you don’t think people buy beers on eBay because they want to drink them? Wouldn’t that make them "consumers," assuming that they are buying them to consume the contents?

If they aren’t buying them to consume, but because of some desire to "collect" bottles then aren’t they "collectible bottles" - something eBay doesn’t actually have a problem with? My understanding is they canceled auctions because they decided they were not being collected as collectibles but instead consumed.

I blame it all on Marc Nolan.

I want ALL beer sales removed from eBay, and my understanding was that this was happening as we speak. When rare beers become an eBay commodity, just like rare toys or action figures or comic books, then the bottom-feeders come out of the woodwork, many of who have no respect or understanding of the beers they are selling, they do not work gainfully for a living, they just want to make a quick buck. These scumbags are the same people fighting kids in Toys-R-Us for the limited edition Hulk Hogan figure or the limited Matchbox car. These assholes, and those that choose to defend them, can fuck off as far as I am concerned. This is not capitalism. It is dickball.