How are styles determined

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cgarvieuk
beers 37621 º places 457 º 12:31 Tue 7/1/2008

In particular Scottish ales
Tom (magic_Dave ) has none, and ive got 1 rating

As the 2 top Scottish raters with over 5000 ratings between us, is that not just plain wrong.

 
kp
beers 10877 º places 12 º 12:37 Tue 7/1/2008

Styles are determined by the person entering the beer. Occasionally an admin will drink a beer and change the style.

Have y’all entered any new beers? What style did you use?

 
cgarvieuk
beers 37621 º places 457 º 12:56 Tue 7/1/2008

OH so its my Fault is it

Most ive entered have been Bitter or Pale/Golden Ale.

What defines a scottish ale. As i suspect some of the traditional 70/80 shilling should be scottish ales as there what scotland traditionally brewed.

 
Cletus
beers 6349 º places 233 º 13:00 Tue 7/1/2008

Originally posted by cgarvieuk

What defines a scottish ale. As i suspect some of the traditional 70/80 shilling should be scottish ales as there what scotland traditionally brewed.


A scottish ale is a beer from Scotland that cgarvieuk and magic_dave haven’t rated.

 
cgarvieuk
beers 37621 º places 457 º 13:03 Tue 7/1/2008

does that mean that it stops being a scottish ale the moment be try it?

 
Cletus
beers 6349 º places 233 º 13:05 Tue 7/1/2008

Originally posted by cgarvieuk
does that mean that it stops being a scottish ale the moment be try it?


I think so. Therefore, this is no longer a Scottish Ale:

http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=82140&FanOfID=36509

it’ll hence forth be referred to as a pale lager.

 
cgarvieuk
beers 37621 º places 457 º 13:07 Tue 7/1/2008

i thought id cracked it, i looked at the best in style and half of them have scottish ale in the title

then i looked at
http://ratebeer.com/beer/belhaven-scottish-ale---export---80-shilling/4486/
and nope its brewed in scotland so its a bitter.

Maybe the English Admins dont like us Scots.

 
Cletus
beers 6349 º places 233 º 13:15 Tue 7/1/2008

Personally, I’d like to see the Scottish Ale category disappear from the site as it’s a made up style. If it were being used as a place to store a distinct regional variety, that’d be one thing, but this isn’t what is happening in that category. I just looked at the ones I rated and all of them were brewed in the US:

http://www.ratebeer.com/ViewRatingsByStyle.asp?UserID=17111&StyleID=21

Ten Penny, Firth of Forth and Hibernator are closer to ESBs. The Grittys, Trout River and Appalachian brews are brown ales.

Maybe the reason there are no Scottish Ales in Scotland is because you guys have a better grasp on what the beers being lumped into that category in the US actually are.

 
kp
beers 10877 º places 12 º 13:31 Tue 7/1/2008

Q: What do they call Canadian bacon in Canada?
A: Bacon.

Q: What do they call a Scottish ale in Scotland?
A: Ale.


 
Trev
beers 2023 º places 24 º 13:45 Tue 7/1/2008

Curiosity caught up with me so I checked.

I have rated 4 ’Scotch ales’ with only McEwan being remotely Scottish. (1 american, 1 canadian, 1 argentina)
and...
2 ’Scottish Ales’ both from Canada.

 
cgarvieuk
beers 37621 º places 457 º 13:48 Tue 7/1/2008

Originally posted by Trev
Curiosity caught up with me so I checked.

I have rated 4 ’Scotch ales’ with only McEwan being remotely Scottish. (1 american, 1 canadian, 1 argentina)
and...
2 ’Scottish Ales’ both from Canada.




and the McEwan brewed in England from what it says, and i dont think its even available in UK, i think its brewed for export only