Hitler on a label

Originally posted by NosirIwont
Okay, my two cents…

It has earlier been stated by somebody that people who don’t find this offensive didn’t pay attention in history class. Well, I did pay attention in history class (I studied history at the university), and I’m very well aware of the atrocities committed by that shithead. I’m also active in the anti-fascist movement in Denmark. I have had the crap kicked out of me by nazis. I have kicked the crap out of nazis. I have friends in Eastern Europe who have seen their friends murdered by nazis.

I’m not offended by the label.

I realize that it can be offensive to some people in some cultural context, but keep in mind, that this was made in a culture (Denmark) where it’s okay to do such thing, and people take this for what it is – a caricature. So I think it’s unfair to accuse Christian of doing this because he wants to play on people fears etc., it’s most likely simply because it’s a humorous thing to do in Denmark – no matter how it’s received in other countries. Now, it may be a bad idea to export the beer with that label, but has that happened yet? – I don’t know. But let’s take it from there if it happens.

I earlier posted a link to Avery The Kaiser which featured a picture of Kaiser Wilhelm, which didn’t provoke much of a response. But if I was the kind of person who was offended by beer labels, I would certainly be more offended by this label, as it actually celebrates a person who was a key person in the slaughter of 15 million people (and that’s not counting the fact that WWI was indirectly responsible for such great things as the Spanish Flu, Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany). – Why no fuss over that label?

Originally posted by NosirIwont
I earlier posted a link to Avery The Kaiser which featured a picture of Kaiser Wilhelm, which didn’t provoke much of a response. But if I was the kind of person who was offended by beer labels, I would certainly be more offended by this label, as it actually celebrates a person who was a key person in the slaughter of 15 million people (and that’s not counting the fact that WWI was indirectly responsible for such great things as the Spanish Flu, Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany). – Why no fuss over that label?

Originally posted by OSLO

Originally posted by NosirIwont
I earlier posted a link to Avery The Kaiser which featured a picture of Kaiser Wilhelm, which didn’t provoke much of a response. But if I was the kind of person who was offended by beer labels, I would certainly be more offended by this label, as it actually celebrates a person who was a key person in the slaughter of 15 million people (and that’s not counting the fact that WWI was indirectly responsible for such great things as the Spanish Flu, Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany). – Why no fuss over that label?

I’m not offended by either label, but I think that the Hitler label especially is in poor taste. I don’t know as much about Wilhelm II as I do about Hitler, but I hope that you can see the difference and why there is no fuss over the Avery label. First of all, World War I happened longer ago, so there are less living ties to the war. Secondly, Wilhelm II was responsible for initiating a war that led to 15 million dead, but as far as I know, he did not systematically murder millions of people in the way that Hitler did (also, if you are blaming all WWI deaths on Wilhelm, then you can blame all WWII deaths on Hitler--all 50+ million). Numbers aside, how about we consider the fact that Hitler’s birthday is still celebrated by many Neo-Nazis, and that his likeness will most likely forever be linked with anti Jewish philosophy and sentiments. Know of many hate groups that worship Wilhelm II to the same extent? Finally, Avery is produced in the United States, not in a country that neighbors Germany. So, does that make it ok? No, probably not, but again, I really hope that you can see the difference.

Originally posted by OSLO
Secondly, Wilhelm II was responsible for initiating a war that led to 15 million dead

Originally posted by Phillies2008Champs
I think that Denmark is not a stranger to controversial cartoons and that some Danes fought for the Werhmacht (German Army) during WWII complicates this even further. However, I do think people should be allowed to decide what goes on a label. Here in PA, we had to deal with our legislature banning the Manniquin Piss statue on a label and Legacy Hedonism as well.

Originally posted by Hildigöltur
No Danish citizens fought for the Wehrmacht. Around 6000 fought as volunteers for Waffen-SS.

Originally posted by Phillies2008Champs
I think that Denmark is not a stranger to controversial cartoons and that some Danes fought for the Werhmacht (German Army) during WWII complicates this even further. However, I do think people should be allowed to decide what goes on a label. Here in PA, we had to deal with our legislature banning the Manniquin Piss statue on a label and Legacy Hedonism as well.

Thanks for the correction. Wow, even worse is they were SS. There was no way of denying the Arian ways if you fought for the SS.

Originally posted by Hildigöltur
No Danish citizens fought for the Wehrmacht. Around 6000 fought as volunteers for Waffen-SS.

Originally posted by beastiefan2k
Disgusting, imo. What do you think?

http://knutalbert.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/bad-taste/

no label approval necessary in Denmark?